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2020-12-31
ni'ce neo year
Reminder: List of major market closure arrangements during the New Year's Day holiday
2021年1月1日元旦假期即将来临,部分交易所的早市开市和收市时间有所变动,敬请各位投资者密切留意。港股:2020年12月31日(星期四)交易半日。2021年1月1日(星期五)全天休市,1月4日(星期
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2020-12-29
depolar & pluralism be the eco in midkingdom
當前互聯網反壟斷的形勢及我們的任務
@我是大夫:
$騰訊控股(00700)$$阿里巴巴(BABA)$這兩天,市場對中概互聯反應激烈,我也一直在思考反壟斷究竟會對互聯網企業帶來多深多強的影響,現分享一下對總體形勢和具體個股的看法。 以我在中央國家機關多年的工作經歷,但凡政治局定調的方針,相關職能部門一定會迅速行動,落實中央的指示精神和決策部署。短期內會有組合拳打出來,不幸的企業各有各的不幸;長期看,互聯網反壟斷一定不是一陣風,過去的事情可以翻篇,但未來一定會持續遏制“互聯網+資本”的強勢擴張,任何民營和外資都不能傷及國本。在中國,首先要講政治! 我判斷互聯網企業整體在半年內都不會太好,殺估值是必然的,本來今年就漲太多。當市場適應監管常態化後,會慢慢地回暖。 可以肯定,監管不是要一杆子打翻整個互聯網行業,也不是要整死某個企業。互聯網的特點就是克服物理界限從而弗遠**,這也是互聯網企業以規模求效率的內在動因。理解這一點,你就會明白爲什麼互聯網企業更容易形成壟斷格局。除非徹底消滅互聯網,否則即便消滅掉某個巨頭,還會有新的玩家填補這個空白。世界是厭惡真空的! 騰訊 1、騰訊屬於產品和內容型企業,而非平臺類,理論上不是本輪反壟斷重點,但樹大招風難免被波及。 2、騰訊在通訊社交領域是絕對壟斷,這主要得益於微信等產品的先發優勢和迭代能力,也有國家刻意保護的成分。因爲通訊社交涉及國家安全(想想阿拉伯之春是怎麼爆發的?),一個配合服從國家監管的本土巨頭要遠好於一個碎片化的市場。基辛格曾說,讓我說服歐盟,我電話該打給誰?從全球範圍看,通訊社交軟件在一個國家或地區都是一種產品壟斷。 3、騰訊在商業化方面比較剋制,在金融領域十分審慎。騰訊優勢在遊戲,這個離民生比較遠,監管更多是防止青少年網
當前互聯網反壟斷的形勢及我們的任務
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2020-12-29
he that believes may strand. mildness doesn't necessarily leads to push again in midland
反壟斷之下,國內互聯網巨頭們集體大跌,作爲投資者我們該如何選擇
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先說下我的判斷:一、首先反壟斷和螞蟻這兩個事情我判斷對Alibaba是有中短期影響的,昨天調查組調查一天就結束調查、央行官媒發文,反壟斷和螞蟻的事情,都階段性告一段落,接下來是處罰和整改,央行官媒用詞偏中性,調查組用詞中性偏友好。PS:螞蟻沒上市,不在討論之列。二、但,也有長期影響的可能性,一是因爲如果阿里對二選一路徑依賴的話,反壟斷下阿里接下來的電商經營將面臨困難,給了PDD和JD機會,因爲加強反壟斷和防止資本無序擴張是長期政策,不會幾天就結束了。對阿里集團的整改也是需要時間的,不要看浙江省的消息,這事兒是中央層面的。具體整改措施沒有出來之前所謂抄底都是在賭博。阿里核心電商的利潤大概是一年150億美元,如果降到100億美元或是未來一兩年停止增長,那麼現在的估值依然很高。可以遇見的大概率事件:1、阿里巴巴取消二選一,那麼核心品類出淘去拼多多京東是必然的,利潤率會被削弱,利潤份額縮減,增長空間被限制。2、商家逃稅漏稅現象如果被打擊,那麼電商業務的利潤率也會被削弱,但這個影響可能沒那麼大。3、拼多多和京東的用戶數還在增長,尤其是拼多多將擁有8-9億活躍買家,如果sku再跟上來,對淘寶是足以致命性的挑戰。三、阿里巨量的SKU形成的規模效應和雙邊網絡效應、結合大量的電商基礎設施形成的護城河,目前來看還是很深的,阿里的人才密度、幹部板凳深度在全世界都是數一數二的,這些長期因素沒有變化。四、上邊的事情咱不懂,不好判斷,所以我們作爲投資人就要規避風險,超過自己認知能力邊界的就要規避,不要倖存者偏差,所以在螞蟻上市擱置之後我已經將持有的Alibaba減倉到之前持有量的10%五、我強調過好幾次,反壟斷能促進互聯網開放、繁榮,對不管有沒有壟斷地位的互聯網公司都是利好。六、我也強調過好多次,反壟斷反的是壟斷行爲,不是反壟斷地位,這些公司不存在被拆分的可能性,當然,未來的經營集中(M&A)
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