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- orangeyorangey
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  NIO Is Winning
  NIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.The company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.NIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.NIO Inc. stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla .In
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  Chinese education stocks fell again
  (June 11) Gaotu fell over 7%, TAL Education Group was down about 4%, New Oriental Education fell abo
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  Can Alibaba Stock Hit $1,000? What's The Outlook
  The "promotional period" for BABA shares has gone on for too long and patience is wearing thin. On the other hand, there's a camp of investors who welcome this.Alibaba has considerably more challenges on hand now than in early 2019 , yet the share price manages to be substantially higher.Drawing a straightforward trend line price chart, BABA shares could reach $1,000 sometime in the first quarter of 2027 if it crawls along with the support level.Alibaba's P/E ratio would compress to a mere 11 ti
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This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla .In ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>NIO is #1 in China's electric SUV market for good reason.</li>\n <li>The company's success is driven by its brilliant innovations and marketing strategy.</li>\n <li>NIO is growing faster than Tesla, and yet, it is trading at a discount.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/790fae23b830463fec748d2deb2ce336\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>PonyWang/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p>NIO Inc. (NYSE:NIO) stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla (TSLA).</p>\n<p>In addition, we will discuss NIO's business, financials, trading, valuation, and risks so readers could reach their own informed decision.</p>\n<p><b>Business: Why NIO Wins</b></p>\n<p>NIO positions itself in the premium SUV segment, focusing on smart EVs with a differentiated battery strategy.</p>\n<p>Delivered in March 2019, the company's first model, the ES8, is a luxury 7-seater SUV that is still the company's flagship product today. 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In 2020, the company generated $2.5 billion in revenue, up 126% y/y. In 2021, the company is expected to grow 117% y/y to $5.4 billion.</p>\n<p>The company is not yet profitable but is expected to be by 2022. Gross margin only turned positive in 2020 and is expected to be 19.3% in 2021. EBITDA is expected to be negative $258 million in 2021 and a positive $206 million in 2022. Free cash flow is expected to be negative $42 million in 2021 before turning to a positive $354 million in 2022.</p>\n<p>However, despite the cash burn expected in 2021, investors should feel at ease since the company exited&nbsp;2020&nbsp;with $5.9 billion of cash and cash equivalents. Including $600 million in short-term investments and subtracting ~$2.1 billion in debt and operating leases and the expected negative free cash flow in 2021, NIO should exit 2021 with over $4 billion in net cash and investments. That is plenty of buffers since NIO is expected to generate positive free cash flow in 2022.</p>\n<p>Since NIO is not yet profitable, we will look at the forward EV/Sales multiple as is typical for hyper-growth companies not yet generating a profit. The company went public in September 2018, trading at around 7 to 8 times EV/Sales, before bottoming out at around 0.7 times sales in May 2019. The market, however, caught the EV fever in April 2020 and sent NIO's valuation soaring to a peak of 14.6x by January 2021. After the growth sell-off we recently experienced, NIO is currently sitting at a much more reasonable 8 times forward sales. This is a significant discount to TSLA's 10.2 times forward EV/Sales despite growing twice as fast (TSLA is expected to grow revenues by 57% in 2021 compared to NIO's 117%).</p>\n<p><b>Risks</b></p>\n<p>There are many risks associated with owning NIO.</p>\n<p>Although its battery swapping strategy is highly differentiated and seems to be growing rapidly, the jury is still out on the ultimate market share of battery swapping or fast-charging infrastructure. If fast charging technology continues to advance significantly, it will likely erode a key advantage of battery swapping: speed.</p>\n<p>NIO's business model is innovative and new. Unfortunately, the flip side of that is that it is untested, and NIO remains unprofitable. For many investors, NIO will remain a \"show me\" story until the profitability of its business model improves.</p>\n<p>NIO's ability to expand globally may be limited by the rising geopolitical tension between China and the US, and to a lesser extent, with Japan and Europe. The geopolitical situation remains highly opaque and uncertain, and is a risk factor for all auto OEMs.</p>\n<p>Auto OEMs are currently facing a severe chip&nbsp;shortage. In addition, the chip density in automobiles is increasing, making the OEMs increasingly reliant on semiconductor suppliers and foundries.</p>\n<p>NIO's competitive advantages may not overcome the massive scale advantage of ICE OEMs and much bigger EV players like Tesla and China's BYD.</p>\n<p><b>Takeaway</b></p>\n<p>NIO's technical and business model innovations make it a highly differentiated company in the exciting and rapidly growing EV market. 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(NYSE:NIO) stands out for its strong market position- #1 market share in electric SUV in China- and innovation in the rapidly growing and highly competitive electric vehicle industry. This article will discuss why NIO is winning against some stiff competition, including against Tesla (TSLA).\nIn addition, we will discuss NIO's business, financials, trading, valuation, and risks so readers could reach their own informed decision.\nBusiness: Why NIO Wins\nNIO positions itself in the premium SUV segment, focusing on smart EVs with a differentiated battery strategy.\nDelivered in March 2019, the company's first model, the ES8, is a luxury 7-seater SUV that is still the company's flagship product today. The ES8 is equipped with ADAS and AI system [NOMI] and is comparable to the BYD Song, Tesla Model X, the Audi Q7 45 e-Tron, etc.\nSource: Company\nLeveraging the installed base and customer goodwill due to the highly successful ES8, NIO successfully launched the ES6 and EC6.Recently, the company launched the ET7, its first sedan.\nToday, NIO is the top-selling brand in China's all-electric SUV market in April with a 23% market share, higher than Tesla's 17%, WM Motor and XPeng Motors'(NYSE:XPEV)7%, according to China Automotive Technology and Research Center data.\nOne of the biggest competitive differentiators is NIO'sbattery strategy, which all but eliminates range anxiety, one of the biggest barriers to mass EV adoption. Not only could NIO cars be charged at any charging station for EVs, but the company also built hundreds of battery swapping stations in key cities in China, with plans to expanding to Europe.\nNIO's battery swapping strategy also gives the company the ability to offer a battery-as-a-service [BaaS] solution, which reduces the upfrontcostof purchasing an NIO vehicle by ~$11,000. Since cost is another major barrier to mass EV adoption, NIO's battery strategy appears brilliant as it solves both the range and cost problems.\nSource: Company\nAnother differentiator is the NIO brand, which management created brilliantly by introducing the EP9 in 2016. Six EP9s have been sold to NIO investors for 2.5 million pounds, creating an aura of exclusivity and quality around the brand. Next, NIO targeted the mass-market luxury SUV segment with the ES8, firmly establishing the company as a luxury car OEM.\nSource: Company\nChinese companies must struggle against the common perception that they make low-quality products. This is the same perception issue that Japanese companies faced following their defeat after WW2. Japan solved this problem by moving up the value chain as their economy matured and creating high-quality brands such as Sony(NYSE:SONY). Today, Japan is known for its craftsmanship.\nChina is following the same trajectory, and NIO is one of the emerging brands destroying the perception that \"made in China\" equates to poor quality. I strongly believe that investors who stubbornly hold on to that old perception will miss out on investing in some of the greatest brands the world will ever see.\nBuying an NIO car means much more than just getting a vehicle; it means getting into an exclusive club of services and convenience. Benefits include access to hundreds of swapping stations, lifetime free roadside rescue (including charge vans), lifetime free cellular connectivity, lifetime free warranty, and excellent customer service. This is a powerful selling point for NIO, differentiating it from Tesla, which hasrecentlydeveloped a poor reputation on the customer service front in China.\nSource: Company\nThe company is pushing the envelope even further with NIO House, a literal clubhouse for customers, and NIO Life, which includes NIO branded lifestyle products. NIO's effort to build a lifestyle around its cars seems to be working. This is good news for investors because the only way to escape the competitive battlefield of automobile OEM is to sell services and lifestyles to customers. This is why Ferrari's (RACE) operating margin is well over 20%, while Ford (F) and General Motors (GM) are in the single digits.\nFinancials & Valuation\nNIO is in hyper-growth mode. In 2020, the company generated $2.5 billion in revenue, up 126% y/y. In 2021, the company is expected to grow 117% y/y to $5.4 billion.\nThe company is not yet profitable but is expected to be by 2022. Gross margin only turned positive in 2020 and is expected to be 19.3% in 2021. EBITDA is expected to be negative $258 million in 2021 and a positive $206 million in 2022. Free cash flow is expected to be negative $42 million in 2021 before turning to a positive $354 million in 2022.\nHowever, despite the cash burn expected in 2021, investors should feel at ease since the company exited 2020 with $5.9 billion of cash and cash equivalents. Including $600 million in short-term investments and subtracting ~$2.1 billion in debt and operating leases and the expected negative free cash flow in 2021, NIO should exit 2021 with over $4 billion in net cash and investments. That is plenty of buffers since NIO is expected to generate positive free cash flow in 2022.\nSince NIO is not yet profitable, we will look at the forward EV/Sales multiple as is typical for hyper-growth companies not yet generating a profit. The company went public in September 2018, trading at around 7 to 8 times EV/Sales, before bottoming out at around 0.7 times sales in May 2019. The market, however, caught the EV fever in April 2020 and sent NIO's valuation soaring to a peak of 14.6x by January 2021. After the growth sell-off we recently experienced, NIO is currently sitting at a much more reasonable 8 times forward sales. This is a significant discount to TSLA's 10.2 times forward EV/Sales despite growing twice as fast (TSLA is expected to grow revenues by 57% in 2021 compared to NIO's 117%).\nRisks\nThere are many risks associated with owning NIO.\nAlthough its battery swapping strategy is highly differentiated and seems to be growing rapidly, the jury is still out on the ultimate market share of battery swapping or fast-charging infrastructure. If fast charging technology continues to advance significantly, it will likely erode a key advantage of battery swapping: speed.\nNIO's business model is innovative and new. Unfortunately, the flip side of that is that it is untested, and NIO remains unprofitable. For many investors, NIO will remain a \"show me\" story until the profitability of its business model improves.\nNIO's ability to expand globally may be limited by the rising geopolitical tension between China and the US, and to a lesser extent, with Japan and Europe. The geopolitical situation remains highly opaque and uncertain, and is a risk factor for all auto OEMs.\nAuto OEMs are currently facing a severe chip shortage. In addition, the chip density in automobiles is increasing, making the OEMs increasingly reliant on semiconductor suppliers and foundries.\nNIO's competitive advantages may not overcome the massive scale advantage of ICE OEMs and much bigger EV players like Tesla and China's BYD.\nTakeaway\nNIO's technical and business model innovations make it a highly differentiated company in the exciting and rapidly growing EV market. The company is winning, and its competitive moat is getting bigger as its ecosystem of vehicles and services grows. Relative to the industry leader, Tesla, NIO's stock price seems like a bargain given its faster growth rate and lower multiples.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1008,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":163493990,"gmtCreate":1623890613810,"gmtModify":1703822570123,"author":{"id":"3580452134521703","authorId":"3580452134521703","name":"orangey","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3580452134521703","authorIdStr":"3580452134521703"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"oh noo :(","listText":"oh noo :(","text":"oh noo :(","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/163493990","repostId":"1174648150","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1174648150","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1623421129,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1174648150?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-11 22:18","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Chinese education stocks fell again","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1174648150","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"(June 11) Gaotu fell over 7%, TAL Education Group was down about 4%, New Oriental Education fell abo","content":"<p>(June 11)&nbsp;Gaotu fell over 7%, TAL Education Group was down about 4%, New Oriental Education fell about 2%.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/19995de30a445296dd85511c627cc738\" tg-width=\"304\" tg-height=\"242\"></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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What's The Outlook","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1107871315","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"The \"promotional period\" for BABA shares has gone on for too long and patience is wearing thin. On the other hand, there's a camp of investors who welcome this.Alibaba has considerably more challenges on hand now than in early 2019 , yet the share price manages to be substantially higher.Drawing a straightforward trend line price chart, BABA shares could reach $1,000 sometime in the first quarter of 2027 if it crawls along with the support level.Alibaba's P/E ratio would compress to a mere 11 ti","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>The \"promotional period\" for BABA shares has gone on for too long and patience is wearing thin. On the other hand, there's a camp of investors who welcome this.</li>\n <li>Alibaba has considerably more challenges on hand now than in early 2019 (U.S.-China trade war), yet the share price manages to be substantially higher.</li>\n <li>Drawing a straightforward trend line price chart, BABA shares could reach $1,000 sometime in the first quarter of 2027 if it crawls along with the support level.</li>\n <li>Alibaba's P/E ratio would compress to a mere 11 times on a forward basis (FY2026) and this is based on the current depressed environment.</li>\n <li>An investment in Alibaba has several risk factors and I wish to highlight two key ones.</li>\n</ul>\n<p><b>BABA stock is on sale</b></p>\n<p>Like the millions of items on its platforms, Alibaba Group (BABA) is on sale. Unfortunately, for many shareholders, the \"promotional period\" has gone on for too long and patience is wearing thin. On the other hand, there's a camp of investors who welcome this as it allows them to continue adding to their shares.</p>\n<p>Regardless, as a writer on numerousChinese internet stockswhose share prices have remained depressed for months and reading the harsh comments, it can get disheartening. As a shareholder in several of them myself, I understand the emotions going through the mind.</p>\n<p>At the same time, there have been many wise readers and fellow authors who provided sound advice that keeps me on the path. For instance, Gary Alexander recently wrote regarding thetech sell-off:</p>\n<blockquote>\n \"When the selloff in the tech sector has proven to be this indiscriminate (good and bad, cheap and expensive stocks are all being sold off at roughly the same pace), it's our job as diligent investors to be extremely discerning in the buying opportunities that have surfaced.\"\n</blockquote>\n<p>With BABA stock having given up all its gains in the past year, it's scant comfort to know the share price is still 58 percent higher than early 2019. Nevertheless, I am bringing this up because Alibaba was being shunned by investors then due to the headwinds from the U.S.-China trade war.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e90c1a30b5b83eb51c67338eab37cb5e\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"451\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>Now that the e-commerce and cloud giant has considerably more challenges on hand, yet the share price manages to be substantially higher. This provides a glimpse into the possible future where Alibaba Group Holding Limited overcome its immediate struggles and investors clamor for its shares again.</p>\n<p>That said, how do we justify that BABA stock is on sale? Well, let's look at the valuation. Both Alibaba Group and its U.S. peer Amazon.com (AMZN) have delivered solid revenue and earnings growth in the past years. The improvement in business fundamentals has led investors in both companies to think it would only get tougher to achieve returns expected of a growth stock, compressing their price-earnings multiples.</p>\n<p>Looking at the more representative enterprise value to free cash flow [EV/FCF] ratio, it becomes apparent that the market is valuing Alibaba much lower than Amazon. The EV/FCF is only 16 times for Alibaba and 72 times for Amazon.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/57bda237a374d7f6688c298b0fe9ae21\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"493\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>With a 3-year revenue CAGR and a 5-year revenue CAGR above 40 percent, it's hard to argue Alibaba Group is not a growth stock. Amazon only managed to deliver around 30 percent CAGR for both its 3-year and 5-year revenues. For the last reported quarter, Alibaba scored a 64 percent increase in revenue. Its forward revenue growth of 35.3 percent surpasses that of Amazon as well.</p>\n<table>\n <tbody>\n  <tr>\n   <td>BABA</td>\n   <td>AMZN</td>\n  </tr>\n  <tr>\n   <td>Revenue Growth [YoY]</td>\n   <td><p>40.7%</p></td>\n   <td><p>41.5%</p></td>\n  </tr>\n  <tr>\n   <td>Revenue Growth [FWD]</td>\n   <td><p>35.3%</p></td>\n   <td><p>27.2%</p></td>\n  </tr>\n  <tr>\n   <td>Revenue 3 Year [CAGR]</td>\n   <td><p>42.1%</p></td>\n   <td><p>29.5%</p></td>\n  </tr>\n  <tr>\n   <td>Revenue 5 Year [CAGR]</td>\n   <td><p>48.0%</p></td>\n   <td><p>29.9%</p></td>\n  </tr>\n </tbody>\n</table>\n<p><i>Source: Seeking Alpha Premium (data extracted on June 6, 2021)</i></p>\n<p>During times of uncertainty, it is imperative that companies have plenty of liquidity. Alibaba has loads of cash. Its EV to net cash is at a low 11.5 times compared to 36.6 times for Amazon. In other words, Alibaba has much more cash at its disposal relative to Amazon when we compare the enterprise values of the two companies. With the financial heft to withstand regulatory changes and geopolitical headwinds, it seems BABA shares are now at a bargain.</p>\n<p><b>Alibaba stock forecast</b></p>\n<p>The circumstances leading to the rough patch that Alibaba Group has found itself in are well-publicized. For the uninitiated, here are the key hurdles the company has faced:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>Theeleventh-hour suspensionof the IPO of Ant Group, its fintech arm;</li>\n <li>The\"disappearance\" of Jack Ma, the flamboyant founder of Alibaba Group;</li>\n <li>Antimonopoly investigation on its e-commerce practices and the subsequentpenalty meted out;</li>\n <li>Restructuring of Ant Group such that its finance lending unit isregulated like a bank, crimping its valuation.</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Considering the earlier mentioned formidable headwinds, it might seem ludicrous to think BABA stock can hit $1000 per share, more than quadruple the current price. Nevertheless, drawing a straightforward trend line price chart, BABA shares could reach $1000 sometime in the first quarter of 2027, if it crawls along with the support level.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/00dc7dd1ce5e1c05708abe460be89359\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"249\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p><i>Source: Yahoo Finance (chart drawn by ALT Perspective)</i></p>\n<p>Do note that I am not factoring in any share consolidation in the interim. I am also not considering the scenario that Alibaba becomes a meme stock which is possible since Redditors tend to promote stocks that are \"hated\" by the market. I am assuming the adage that the stock market is a weighing machine, in the long run, will come to fruition for BABA.</p>\n<p>Is that thought farfetched? Just a couple of months back, I would answer a categorical no. However, as you will see from the chart, BABA's share price has dipped below the long-term support line. Some stocks have experienced such a chart pattern and managed to return above the support-turned-resistance line. It would not be easy but it has happened.</p>\n<p>Of course, the question here is whether $1000 per share is something foreseeable in the future. I say yes, provided the stock can regain its composure and get back up to the multi-year trend line in the next few months or so. If the stock drifts further south instead, the recovery back to the long-term support line would be too onerous, not to mention to get back on the track to $1000.</p>\n<p>The consensus one-year price target for BABA is at $295.60, 37 percent above the prevailing price. Even if the price target does not get revised upwards through the rest of the year, hitting near that level would bring the share price well above the $278 where the support line will be at the end of 2021. This means it isn't that difficult for Alibaba to return to its uptrend.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6a8487c8f5276e6dd30d79d024833563\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"478\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p><b>Is Alibaba a good long-term stock?</b></p>\n<p>It is common nowadays to read media headlines and comments about fund managers \"dumping BABA stock\". Thus, it came as a surprise to me that Alibaba Group Holding was ranked fifth among \"50 stocks that matter the most to hedge funds,\" according to the Goldman Sachs'Hedge Fund VIP List.</p>\n<p>As many as 77 funds with 10 to 200 positions have Alibaba Group in their portfolios as of 31 March 2021, way higher than the median of 44 for the other stocks. Alibaba even found itself in the top 10 holdings in 35 funds. The average portfolio weight of BABA stock in these funds was 6 percent, the same weighting as Amazon and Visa Inc. (V). The percentage of equity cap of Alibaba owned by hedge funds was 2 percent, also the same as Amazon.</p>\n<p>Masayoshi Son, the CEO of SoftBank Group (OTCPK:SFTBY) (OTCPK:SFTBF), recently commented that Alibaba is \"a great company, at a low price compared with its fundamentals.\" As SoftBank is a substantial shareholder of Alibaba, perhaps some readers are not convinced.</p>\n<p>However, Alibaba is becoming such a value stock that even \"Warren Buffett would love,\" according to a recent<i>Barron's</i>article. In a selection of high-scoring U.S. stocks from the Validea Buffett model, with market values above $10 billion, Alibaba Group was among the 10 finalists. Of particular note, it received a perfect score based on the Buffett model.</p>\n<p>What are we missing here? According to the consensus forecast, Alibaba is projected to double its earnings per share to nearly $20 in fiscal year ending March 2026, up from the $10.10 it reported in the fiscal year ending March 2021. Correspondingly, its P/E ratio would compress to a mere 11 times on a forward basis, if the share price stayed stagnant.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3e98d8e98b1ce9bd2ec6a1275eb329f9\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"276\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p><i>Source: Seeking Alpha Premium</i></p>\n<p>If the share price does reach $1000, the P/E ratio would be more than 40 times. That would mean a rather rich valuation for Alibaba. However, we have to consider that the formidable headwinds facing the company have resulted in analysts churning out conservative numbers and price targets. As we can see from the following table, the EPS forecast is premised on the revenue growth steadily declining from the 5-year revenue CAGR of 48 percent to the low teens by 2026.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7b2476ae016bd40d9b86476464121313\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"207\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p><i>Source: Seeking Alpha Premium</i></p>\n<p>When Alibaba Group continues to deliver steady revenue and earnings growth over the coming years, coupled with a potentialsustained change in narrative, the sentiment towards the stock could switch back to positive and we could once again see analysts revising their projections in reaction.</p>\n<p><b>Risk factors for Alibaba investors</b></p>\n<p>An investment in Alibaba has several risk factors and I wish to highlight two key ones. First, its ADR shares are listed through a Variable Interest Entity [VIE] structure. Some analysts haveraised the concernthat the Chinese government could one day declare the VIE void and the shares could become worthless overnight technically.</p>\n<p>Rationally though, it does not make sense for Beijing to disavow the VIE structure. Listing on the U.S. markets enables its companies to secure funding for business growth which would, in turn, boost the Chinese economy as well as create jobs.</p>\n<p>Second, the Holding Foreign Companies Accountable Act [HFCAA]signed into lawon 18 December 2020 could result in BABA ADRs delisted from U.S. stock exchanges if Alibaba is unable to fulfill the conditions as stipulated in the Act. The company CFO, Maggie Wu, has expressed her confidence that Alibaba cancomply withthe requirements of the HFCAA.</p>\n<p>Nevertheless, the U.S. government can issue amendments to the Act as it hasdone soin March. There is no certainty that Alibaba would be able to meet all future changes to the HFCAA. 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What's The Outlook\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-10 17:01 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4433917-can-alibaba-stock-hit-1000><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nThe \"promotional period\" for BABA shares has gone on for too long and patience is wearing thin. On the other hand, there's a camp of investors who welcome this.\nAlibaba has considerably more ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4433917-can-alibaba-stock-hit-1000\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09988":"阿里巴巴-W","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4433917-can-alibaba-stock-hit-1000","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1107871315","content_text":"Summary\n\nThe \"promotional period\" for BABA shares has gone on for too long and patience is wearing thin. On the other hand, there's a camp of investors who welcome this.\nAlibaba has considerably more challenges on hand now than in early 2019 (U.S.-China trade war), yet the share price manages to be substantially higher.\nDrawing a straightforward trend line price chart, BABA shares could reach $1,000 sometime in the first quarter of 2027 if it crawls along with the support level.\nAlibaba's P/E ratio would compress to a mere 11 times on a forward basis (FY2026) and this is based on the current depressed environment.\nAn investment in Alibaba has several risk factors and I wish to highlight two key ones.\n\nBABA stock is on sale\nLike the millions of items on its platforms, Alibaba Group (BABA) is on sale. Unfortunately, for many shareholders, the \"promotional period\" has gone on for too long and patience is wearing thin. On the other hand, there's a camp of investors who welcome this as it allows them to continue adding to their shares.\nRegardless, as a writer on numerousChinese internet stockswhose share prices have remained depressed for months and reading the harsh comments, it can get disheartening. As a shareholder in several of them myself, I understand the emotions going through the mind.\nAt the same time, there have been many wise readers and fellow authors who provided sound advice that keeps me on the path. For instance, Gary Alexander recently wrote regarding thetech sell-off:\n\n \"When the selloff in the tech sector has proven to be this indiscriminate (good and bad, cheap and expensive stocks are all being sold off at roughly the same pace), it's our job as diligent investors to be extremely discerning in the buying opportunities that have surfaced.\"\n\nWith BABA stock having given up all its gains in the past year, it's scant comfort to know the share price is still 58 percent higher than early 2019. Nevertheless, I am bringing this up because Alibaba was being shunned by investors then due to the headwinds from the U.S.-China trade war.\n\nNow that the e-commerce and cloud giant has considerably more challenges on hand, yet the share price manages to be substantially higher. This provides a glimpse into the possible future where Alibaba Group Holding Limited overcome its immediate struggles and investors clamor for its shares again.\nThat said, how do we justify that BABA stock is on sale? Well, let's look at the valuation. Both Alibaba Group and its U.S. peer Amazon.com (AMZN) have delivered solid revenue and earnings growth in the past years. The improvement in business fundamentals has led investors in both companies to think it would only get tougher to achieve returns expected of a growth stock, compressing their price-earnings multiples.\nLooking at the more representative enterprise value to free cash flow [EV/FCF] ratio, it becomes apparent that the market is valuing Alibaba much lower than Amazon. The EV/FCF is only 16 times for Alibaba and 72 times for Amazon.\n\nWith a 3-year revenue CAGR and a 5-year revenue CAGR above 40 percent, it's hard to argue Alibaba Group is not a growth stock. Amazon only managed to deliver around 30 percent CAGR for both its 3-year and 5-year revenues. For the last reported quarter, Alibaba scored a 64 percent increase in revenue. Its forward revenue growth of 35.3 percent surpasses that of Amazon as well.\n\n\n\nBABA\nAMZN\n\n\nRevenue Growth [YoY]\n40.7%\n41.5%\n\n\nRevenue Growth [FWD]\n35.3%\n27.2%\n\n\nRevenue 3 Year [CAGR]\n42.1%\n29.5%\n\n\nRevenue 5 Year [CAGR]\n48.0%\n29.9%\n\n\n\nSource: Seeking Alpha Premium (data extracted on June 6, 2021)\nDuring times of uncertainty, it is imperative that companies have plenty of liquidity. Alibaba has loads of cash. Its EV to net cash is at a low 11.5 times compared to 36.6 times for Amazon. In other words, Alibaba has much more cash at its disposal relative to Amazon when we compare the enterprise values of the two companies. With the financial heft to withstand regulatory changes and geopolitical headwinds, it seems BABA shares are now at a bargain.\nAlibaba stock forecast\nThe circumstances leading to the rough patch that Alibaba Group has found itself in are well-publicized. For the uninitiated, here are the key hurdles the company has faced:\n\nTheeleventh-hour suspensionof the IPO of Ant Group, its fintech arm;\nThe\"disappearance\" of Jack Ma, the flamboyant founder of Alibaba Group;\nAntimonopoly investigation on its e-commerce practices and the subsequentpenalty meted out;\nRestructuring of Ant Group such that its finance lending unit isregulated like a bank, crimping its valuation.\n\nConsidering the earlier mentioned formidable headwinds, it might seem ludicrous to think BABA stock can hit $1000 per share, more than quadruple the current price. Nevertheless, drawing a straightforward trend line price chart, BABA shares could reach $1000 sometime in the first quarter of 2027, if it crawls along with the support level.\n\nSource: Yahoo Finance (chart drawn by ALT Perspective)\nDo note that I am not factoring in any share consolidation in the interim. I am also not considering the scenario that Alibaba becomes a meme stock which is possible since Redditors tend to promote stocks that are \"hated\" by the market. I am assuming the adage that the stock market is a weighing machine, in the long run, will come to fruition for BABA.\nIs that thought farfetched? Just a couple of months back, I would answer a categorical no. However, as you will see from the chart, BABA's share price has dipped below the long-term support line. Some stocks have experienced such a chart pattern and managed to return above the support-turned-resistance line. It would not be easy but it has happened.\nOf course, the question here is whether $1000 per share is something foreseeable in the future. I say yes, provided the stock can regain its composure and get back up to the multi-year trend line in the next few months or so. If the stock drifts further south instead, the recovery back to the long-term support line would be too onerous, not to mention to get back on the track to $1000.\nThe consensus one-year price target for BABA is at $295.60, 37 percent above the prevailing price. Even if the price target does not get revised upwards through the rest of the year, hitting near that level would bring the share price well above the $278 where the support line will be at the end of 2021. This means it isn't that difficult for Alibaba to return to its uptrend.\n\nIs Alibaba a good long-term stock?\nIt is common nowadays to read media headlines and comments about fund managers \"dumping BABA stock\". Thus, it came as a surprise to me that Alibaba Group Holding was ranked fifth among \"50 stocks that matter the most to hedge funds,\" according to the Goldman Sachs'Hedge Fund VIP List.\nAs many as 77 funds with 10 to 200 positions have Alibaba Group in their portfolios as of 31 March 2021, way higher than the median of 44 for the other stocks. Alibaba even found itself in the top 10 holdings in 35 funds. The average portfolio weight of BABA stock in these funds was 6 percent, the same weighting as Amazon and Visa Inc. (V). The percentage of equity cap of Alibaba owned by hedge funds was 2 percent, also the same as Amazon.\nMasayoshi Son, the CEO of SoftBank Group (OTCPK:SFTBY) (OTCPK:SFTBF), recently commented that Alibaba is \"a great company, at a low price compared with its fundamentals.\" As SoftBank is a substantial shareholder of Alibaba, perhaps some readers are not convinced.\nHowever, Alibaba is becoming such a value stock that even \"Warren Buffett would love,\" according to a recentBarron'sarticle. In a selection of high-scoring U.S. stocks from the Validea Buffett model, with market values above $10 billion, Alibaba Group was among the 10 finalists. Of particular note, it received a perfect score based on the Buffett model.\nWhat are we missing here? According to the consensus forecast, Alibaba is projected to double its earnings per share to nearly $20 in fiscal year ending March 2026, up from the $10.10 it reported in the fiscal year ending March 2021. Correspondingly, its P/E ratio would compress to a mere 11 times on a forward basis, if the share price stayed stagnant.\n\nSource: Seeking Alpha Premium\nIf the share price does reach $1000, the P/E ratio would be more than 40 times. That would mean a rather rich valuation for Alibaba. However, we have to consider that the formidable headwinds facing the company have resulted in analysts churning out conservative numbers and price targets. As we can see from the following table, the EPS forecast is premised on the revenue growth steadily declining from the 5-year revenue CAGR of 48 percent to the low teens by 2026.\n\nSource: Seeking Alpha Premium\nWhen Alibaba Group continues to deliver steady revenue and earnings growth over the coming years, coupled with a potentialsustained change in narrative, the sentiment towards the stock could switch back to positive and we could once again see analysts revising their projections in reaction.\nRisk factors for Alibaba investors\nAn investment in Alibaba has several risk factors and I wish to highlight two key ones. First, its ADR shares are listed through a Variable Interest Entity [VIE] structure. Some analysts haveraised the concernthat the Chinese government could one day declare the VIE void and the shares could become worthless overnight technically.\nRationally though, it does not make sense for Beijing to disavow the VIE structure. Listing on the U.S. markets enables its companies to secure funding for business growth which would, in turn, boost the Chinese economy as well as create jobs.\nSecond, the Holding Foreign Companies Accountable Act [HFCAA]signed into lawon 18 December 2020 could result in BABA ADRs delisted from U.S. stock exchanges if Alibaba is unable to fulfill the conditions as stipulated in the Act. The company CFO, Maggie Wu, has expressed her confidence that Alibaba cancomply withthe requirements of the HFCAA.\nNevertheless, the U.S. government can issue amendments to the Act as it hasdone soin March. There is no certainty that Alibaba would be able to meet all future changes to the HFCAA. 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