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  ·04-19
  $Tiger Brokers(TIGR)$ For me, I do dollar-cost averaging on a monthly basis and buy over the next one year
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  ·2023-03-08
  I missed the October 2022 bottom, so I'm hoping that Wilson is correct and I can buy when the 20% correction happens
  Morgan Stanley’s Wilson Sees 20% Downside for Tech Stocks
  ‘Even the cyclical names that have gone too far’ could tumbleLack of cash coming in the door is an e
  Morgan Stanley’s Wilson Sees 20% Downside for Tech Stocks
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  ·2022-12-16
  It's good for people with fire power to buy stocks at a cheap price. Recession also means that inflation will go down
  Still Not Time To Buy Us Stocks Says Morgan Stanley, Sees 15-20% Downside In S&P 500
  Morgan Stanley’s equity strategists are not ready to declare the all-clear for U.S. equities. Despit
  Still Not Time To Buy Us Stocks Says Morgan Stanley, Sees 15-20% Downside In S&P 500
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  ·2022-11-13
  I hope this is just a bear market rally because I haven't bought enough yet
  SPY: Bear Market Rally Or A Major Bottom?
  SummaryLarge 1-day rallies are usually associated with the bear market rallies.Major bottoms require a policy change.The Fed is still in inflation-fighting mode.gonin/iStock via Getty ImagesThe top 20: daily returns for S&P500The SPDR S&P 500 Trust ETF that tracks the S&P500 soared by 5.5% Thursday - and almost broke into the top 20 daily S&P500 returns in history - since the 1920s. So, what doesit mean?
  SPY: Bear Market Rally Or A Major Bottom?
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He said that he could see some firms going bankrupt.While he said in a note Monday that he’s expecting stocks to rally in the short term, he still warns that the S&P could test the October low as fundamentals deteriorate. The S&P 500 has risen 5.4% this year, while the technology laden Nasdaq 100 has surged more than 12%.Wilson was ranked No. 1 in last year’s Institutional Investor survey after correctly predicting the selloff in stocks in 2022. In October, he correctly forecast a rally in US equities.The strategist said that markets have forgotten about “the whole idea of accruals” — earnings without cash coming through the door. The spread between companies’ cash flow and income reported during this period of hot inflation will hurt margins, Wilson said.“The question is will the markets look through that and suggest that ‘this is temporary and companies will get their head around it’ which we agree with,” Wilson said. “But our experience is that the market will not look through it if the earnings degradation is as severe as I think it’s going to be.”The problem, he said, is that markets’ abilities to see through the difference between the real economy and what could happen with earnings “takes longer than it should.”“That is what is frustrating for some investors who are in the weeds on this,” he added. “It is obvious what is about to happen. Why is the market taking so long to price this? That is just the way it is.”His colleague at Morgan Stanley, Wealth Management Chief Investment Officer Lisa Shalett, later said on Bloomberg TV that the disconnect between the bond and equities markets has become “more severe.” But investors are seeing conflicting data, she said, noting that the Atlanta Fed is predicting that gross domestic product will grow in the first quarter, while the St. Louis Fed says it will be a recessionary quarter.“I had a mentor at the beginning of my career, Michael Goldstein, who used to say ‘nobody knows nothing,’ and that’s where we are at the minute,” she said.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":171,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9928972899,"gmtCreate":1671182268812,"gmtModify":1676538504989,"author":{"id":"4099091084693970","authorId":"4099091084693970","name":"LSH007","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4099091084693970","authorIdStr":"4099091084693970"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"It's good for people with fire power to buy stocks at a cheap price. &nbsp;Recession also means that inflation will go down","listText":"It's good for people with fire power to buy stocks at a cheap price. &nbsp;Recession also means that inflation will go down","text":"It's good for people with fire power to buy stocks at a cheap price. 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Despite 2022 being one of the most challenging years for investors, MS sees more challenges for stocks in the near term.</p><p>“This is a time for patience,” Lisa Shalett, Morgan Stanley’s CIO, wrote in the “2023 Outlook” note sent to Morgan Stanley’s clients.</p><p>The backbone of this cautious stance is the fact that the Fed’s actions need 6-12 months to produce the full economic impact. Shalett says the market might not know the full impact of aggressive hikes “until well into next year.”</p><p>Echoing her colleague Michael Wilson’s comments about high earnings risk the consensus for the S&amp;P500 EPS for 2023 stands at $230. This is extremely high given that some major indicators point to an 80% chance of a recession.</p><p>“Such a scenario fails to account for the likelihood that companies will simultaneously encounter declining volumes and loss of pricing power, ushering in powerful negative operating leverage,” Shalett wrote.</p><p>Morgan Stanley’s S&amp;P 500 EPS projection stands at $195 - significantly below consensus. In line with this estimate, Shalett sees a 15-20% retreat from current levels in the S&amp;P 500. The drop in the first half of the year should “be followed by recovery through year-end to a level essentially flat with today.”</p><p>The Fed pause will weaken the U.S. dollar and “could translate into positive returns in commodities, gold and non-US stocks.”</p><p>“Emerging markets look particularly interesting, given their relative valuations and overall resilience in the face of China lockdowns, energy and food price inflation, and US dollar strength. Based in part on our expectation for improvement in Chinese growth prospects by next spring, we believe the risk/reward is above average,” Morgan Stanley’s CIO added.</p></body></html>","source":"highlight_streetinsider","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Still Not Time To Buy Us Stocks Says Morgan Stanley, Sees 15-20% Downside In S&P 500</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nStill Not Time To Buy Us Stocks Says Morgan Stanley, Sees 15-20% Downside In S&P 500\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-12-16 10:15 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst+Comments/Still+not+time+to+buy+US+stocks+says+Morgan+Stanley%2C+sees+15-20%25+downside+in+S%26P+500/20972296.html><strong>StreetInsider</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Morgan Stanley’s equity strategists are not ready to declare the all-clear for U.S. equities. Despite 2022 being one of the most challenging years for investors, MS sees more challenges for stocks in ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst+Comments/Still+not+time+to+buy+US+stocks+says+Morgan+Stanley%2C+sees+15-20%25+downside+in+S%26P+500/20972296.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite",".DJI":"道琼斯"},"source_url":"https://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst+Comments/Still+not+time+to+buy+US+stocks+says+Morgan+Stanley%2C+sees+15-20%25+downside+in+S%26P+500/20972296.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1142859316","content_text":"Morgan Stanley’s equity strategists are not ready to declare the all-clear for U.S. equities. Despite 2022 being one of the most challenging years for investors, MS sees more challenges for stocks in the near term.“This is a time for patience,” Lisa Shalett, Morgan Stanley’s CIO, wrote in the “2023 Outlook” note sent to Morgan Stanley’s clients.The backbone of this cautious stance is the fact that the Fed’s actions need 6-12 months to produce the full economic impact. Shalett says the market might not know the full impact of aggressive hikes “until well into next year.”Echoing her colleague Michael Wilson’s comments about high earnings risk the consensus for the S&P500 EPS for 2023 stands at $230. This is extremely high given that some major indicators point to an 80% chance of a recession.“Such a scenario fails to account for the likelihood that companies will simultaneously encounter declining volumes and loss of pricing power, ushering in powerful negative operating leverage,” Shalett wrote.Morgan Stanley’s S&P 500 EPS projection stands at $195 - significantly below consensus. In line with this estimate, Shalett sees a 15-20% retreat from current levels in the S&P 500. The drop in the first half of the year should “be followed by recovery through year-end to a level essentially flat with today.”The Fed pause will weaken the U.S. dollar and “could translate into positive returns in commodities, gold and non-US stocks.”“Emerging markets look particularly interesting, given their relative valuations and overall resilience in the face of China lockdowns, energy and food price inflation, and US dollar strength. Based in part on our expectation for improvement in Chinese growth prospects by next spring, we believe the risk/reward is above average,” Morgan Stanley’s CIO added.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":143,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9969921062,"gmtCreate":1668323053356,"gmtModify":1676538041461,"author":{"id":"4099091084693970","authorId":"4099091084693970","name":"LSH007","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4099091084693970","authorIdStr":"4099091084693970"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"I hope this is just a bear market rally because I haven't bought enough yet","listText":"I hope this is just a bear market rally because I haven't bought enough yet","text":"I hope this is just a bear market rally because I haven't bought enough yet","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9969921062","repostId":"1190456060","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1190456060","pubTimestamp":1668302284,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1190456060?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-11-13 09:18","market":"us","language":"en","title":"SPY: Bear Market Rally Or A Major Bottom?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1190456060","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryLarge 1-day rallies are usually associated with the bear market rallies.Major bottoms require a policy change.The Fed is still in inflation-fighting mode.gonin/iStock via Getty ImagesThe top 20: daily returns for S&P500The SPDR S&P 500 Trust ETF  that tracks the S&P500 soared by 5.5% Thursday  - and almost broke into the top 20 daily S&P500 returns in history - since the 1920s. So, what doesit mean?","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Large 1-day rallies are usually associated with the bear market rallies.</li><li>Major bottoms require a policy change.</li><li>The Fed is still in inflation-fighting mode.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c5d234d2c3a6fdd66410e8c4fdc86a25\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"608\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>gonin/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><h2>The top 20: daily returns for S&amp;P500</h2><p>The SPDR S&amp;P 500 Trust ETF (NYSEARCA:SPY) that tracks the S&amp;P500 soared by 5.5% Thursday (11/10/2022) - and almost broke into the top 20 daily S&amp;P500 returns in history - since the 1920s. So, what doesit mean? Is this just a bear market rally, or a signal of the major bottom. Let&#39;s first evaluate the top 20 list of the daily rates of return for the S&amp;P500:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9a00554a6ad210b0ab26216de0667def\" tg-width=\"927\" tg-height=\"1314\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>As you can see from the list above,</p><ul><li>12 out 20 top daily returns were the bear market rallies, and 8 out of these 12 were during the 1929-1932 bear market and the Great Depression.</li><li>8 out of 20 were the near-bottoms, bottoms, or after-bottoms, and 6 of these 8 were during the bottom associated with the 1932 Great Depression bottom.</li><li>2 out of 8 bottoms were associated with the bottoms of the sharp corrections, the 1987 and the 2020 bottom. The 1987 correction was not associated with a recession, and it is generally considered as a technical in nature. The 2020 bottom was associated with the extraordinary events related to covid19 and the monetary and fiscal covid stimuli.</li></ul><p>Based on the historical evidence, the 5.6% daily spike in S&amp;P500 (SPX) is either a signal of a major bottom or just another bear market rally.</p><h2>The major bottom thesis</h2><p>The major bottom thesis requires an actual bear market capitulation, such as the 1932 bottom, the 2003 bottom or 2009 bottom. In each of these cases, there was a clear policy response to stimulate the economy, both monetary and fiscal.</p><p>The 11/10/22 daily spike was in response to the positive surprise in the CPI inflation, which raised the hope of the Fed pivot - or a less aggressive monetary policy tightening.</p><p>As I previously explained, the full bear market has3 stages:1) the liquidity selloff in response to the Fed&#39;s monetary policy tightening, 2) the recessionary selloff caused by the Fed&#39;s tightening, and 3) the credit crunch (or a financial crisis) triggered by the deep recession.</p><p>The bullish case assumes that the current bear market ended with the Phase 1 - or with the peak Fed hawkishness. It&#39;s true, we are likely past the peak inflation, and thus the peak hawkishness.</p><p>However, the question is whether there is a Phase 2 coming - or a recessionary selloff, and whether &#34;something will break&#34; during the process and cause the Phase 3 and the credit crunch.</p><h2>The recessionary selloff</h2><p>The S&amp;P500 PE ratio after the 11/10 spike is 20.58. The market is still overvalued and not priced for a recession.</p><p>Is the recession coming? The spread between the 10Y Treasury Bond yield and the 3-Month Treasury Bill yield is the most reliable and the Fed-favored recession indicator, and once it inverts, the recession becomes almost a certainty.</p><p>Currently, the 10y-3mo spread is deeply inverted at -0.46%. Here is the chart:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/70ef81e28bf62d769ca5f75f29feb339\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"237\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>FRED</span></p><p>Based on yield curve spread indicator, the recession is coming, and the market is not priced for it - based on the PE ratio of over 20. Thus, the current bear market has not bottomed yet, and the next Phase of the bear market is coming.</p><h2>Why is the 10Y-3mo curve inverted? Why is this signaling a recession?</h2><p>The 10Y-3mo spread is inverted because the Fed is hiking the short-term interest rates above the long-term interest rates. Why? To cause a recession to bring the inflation down.</p><p>The market hopes that the Fed will slow down with the interest rates hikes, because the inflation has peaked. Too late. The damage has been done. The Fed could even stop after the December 50bpt hike, the 10y-3mo spread has already inverted.</p><p>But don&#39;t count on the Fed to pause yet. If the core CPI printed today 4.3% (instead of actual 6.3%), and that was expected to persist, the Fed would still have to further hike. The target is 2% inflation.</p><p>But don&#39;t expect inflation to sharply fall either - without a deep recession. The economic war with China is still active, and it&#39;s more likely to escalate. This is inflationary. The war in Ukraine is still active and it&#39;s more likely to escalate. This is also inflationary. The unemployment rate in the US is still near record lows, and this is inflationary. The only thing the Fed can influence is the US unemployment rate - by inducing a recession.</p><h2>It&#39;s a bear market rally</h2><p>We are not at a major bottom; we are possibly in-between the Phase 1 selloff and a Phase 2 recessionary selloff. There are already signs of &#34;things breaking&#34; like the cryptocurrencies, which could lead to the Phase 3 selloff.</p><p>Bear market rallies happen during the &#34;in-between periods&#34;, so this bear market rally could continue. The bottom will be in-place when the Fed wants to the bottom to be in place - this will be the pivot the bulls are waiting: the Fed slashing interest rates and resuming QE. I don&#39;t think anybody expects this over the near term. Don&#39;t fight the Fed. The bear market rally is the opportunity to sell or re-short.</p><h2>SPY sector analysis</h2><p>AllSPYsectors were up significantly on 11/10/2022, led by the beaten down technology sector (XLK), the interest rate sensitive real estate sector (XLRE) and the cyclical discretionary sector (XLY). These sectors should not lead pre-recession, while the Fed is trying to cool off economy.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d11bae7fc6e9bba3dee9e588bd902bb1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"683\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>SelectSectorSPDR</span></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>SPY: Bear Market Rally Or A Major Bottom?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nSPY: Bear Market Rally Or A Major Bottom?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-11-13 09:18 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4556371-spy-bear-market-rally-or-a-major-bottom><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryLarge 1-day rallies are usually associated with the bear market rallies.Major bottoms require a policy change.The Fed is still in inflation-fighting mode.gonin/iStock via Getty ImagesThe top 20...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4556371-spy-bear-market-rally-or-a-major-bottom\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"SPY":"标普500ETF",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4556371-spy-bear-market-rally-or-a-major-bottom","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1190456060","content_text":"SummaryLarge 1-day rallies are usually associated with the bear market rallies.Major bottoms require a policy change.The Fed is still in inflation-fighting mode.gonin/iStock via Getty ImagesThe top 20: daily returns for S&P500The SPDR S&P 500 Trust ETF (NYSEARCA:SPY) that tracks the S&P500 soared by 5.5% Thursday (11/10/2022) - and almost broke into the top 20 daily S&P500 returns in history - since the 1920s. So, what doesit mean? Is this just a bear market rally, or a signal of the major bottom. Let's first evaluate the top 20 list of the daily rates of return for the S&P500:As you can see from the list above,12 out 20 top daily returns were the bear market rallies, and 8 out of these 12 were during the 1929-1932 bear market and the Great Depression.8 out of 20 were the near-bottoms, bottoms, or after-bottoms, and 6 of these 8 were during the bottom associated with the 1932 Great Depression bottom.2 out of 8 bottoms were associated with the bottoms of the sharp corrections, the 1987 and the 2020 bottom. The 1987 correction was not associated with a recession, and it is generally considered as a technical in nature. The 2020 bottom was associated with the extraordinary events related to covid19 and the monetary and fiscal covid stimuli.Based on the historical evidence, the 5.6% daily spike in S&P500 (SPX) is either a signal of a major bottom or just another bear market rally.The major bottom thesisThe major bottom thesis requires an actual bear market capitulation, such as the 1932 bottom, the 2003 bottom or 2009 bottom. In each of these cases, there was a clear policy response to stimulate the economy, both monetary and fiscal.The 11/10/22 daily spike was in response to the positive surprise in the CPI inflation, which raised the hope of the Fed pivot - or a less aggressive monetary policy tightening.As I previously explained, the full bear market has3 stages:1) the liquidity selloff in response to the Fed's monetary policy tightening, 2) the recessionary selloff caused by the Fed's tightening, and 3) the credit crunch (or a financial crisis) triggered by the deep recession.The bullish case assumes that the current bear market ended with the Phase 1 - or with the peak Fed hawkishness. It's true, we are likely past the peak inflation, and thus the peak hawkishness.However, the question is whether there is a Phase 2 coming - or a recessionary selloff, and whether \"something will break\" during the process and cause the Phase 3 and the credit crunch.The recessionary selloffThe S&P500 PE ratio after the 11/10 spike is 20.58. The market is still overvalued and not priced for a recession.Is the recession coming? The spread between the 10Y Treasury Bond yield and the 3-Month Treasury Bill yield is the most reliable and the Fed-favored recession indicator, and once it inverts, the recession becomes almost a certainty.Currently, the 10y-3mo spread is deeply inverted at -0.46%. Here is the chart:FREDBased on yield curve spread indicator, the recession is coming, and the market is not priced for it - based on the PE ratio of over 20. Thus, the current bear market has not bottomed yet, and the next Phase of the bear market is coming.Why is the 10Y-3mo curve inverted? Why is this signaling a recession?The 10Y-3mo spread is inverted because the Fed is hiking the short-term interest rates above the long-term interest rates. Why? To cause a recession to bring the inflation down.The market hopes that the Fed will slow down with the interest rates hikes, because the inflation has peaked. Too late. The damage has been done. The Fed could even stop after the December 50bpt hike, the 10y-3mo spread has already inverted.But don't count on the Fed to pause yet. If the core CPI printed today 4.3% (instead of actual 6.3%), and that was expected to persist, the Fed would still have to further hike. The target is 2% inflation.But don't expect inflation to sharply fall either - without a deep recession. The economic war with China is still active, and it's more likely to escalate. This is inflationary. The war in Ukraine is still active and it's more likely to escalate. This is also inflationary. The unemployment rate in the US is still near record lows, and this is inflationary. The only thing the Fed can influence is the US unemployment rate - by inducing a recession.It's a bear market rallyWe are not at a major bottom; we are possibly in-between the Phase 1 selloff and a Phase 2 recessionary selloff. There are already signs of \"things breaking\" like the cryptocurrencies, which could lead to the Phase 3 selloff.Bear market rallies happen during the \"in-between periods\", so this bear market rally could continue. The bottom will be in-place when the Fed wants to the bottom to be in place - this will be the pivot the bulls are waiting: the Fed slashing interest rates and resuming QE. I don't think anybody expects this over the near term. Don't fight the Fed. The bear market rally is the opportunity to sell or re-short.SPY sector analysisAllSPYsectors were up significantly on 11/10/2022, led by the beaten down technology sector (XLK), the interest rate sensitive real estate sector (XLRE) and the cyclical discretionary sector (XLY). These sectors should not lead pre-recession, while the Fed is trying to cool off economy.SelectSectorSPDR","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":201,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"following","isTTM":true}