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  Chaos, Confusion at Twitter in Elon Musk’s First Week
  He said he gave a copy of the cartoon to Mr. Musk.On Monday, Mr. Cornet said he was summoned to work on new projects. Two days later, he received an email that read, in part: “We regret to inform you that your employment is terminated effective immediately. Your recent behavior has violated multiple policies.”He said he wasn’t sure which policies he had violated. He added that he had recently created a browser extension for downloading work emails, which he believed would help colleagues save im
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  Why Stock Market Bulls Are Cheering the S&P 500’s Close above 4,231
  Many technical analysts pay attention to what’s known as the Fibonacci ratio, attributed to a 13th century Italian mathematician known as Leonardo “Fibonacci” of Pisa. It’s based on a sequence of whole numbers in which the sum of two adjacent numbers equals the next highest number (0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13, 21…
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The company has discussed relaunching a version of Vine by the end of the year, according to one employee.</p><p>Soon after the email to all employees went out Thursday, a staffer posted to the company’s internal Slack channel wishing everyone well and concluding with the “saluting face” emoji, according to employees.</p><p>That kicked off an hourslong series of such salutes from hundreds of Twitter employees. 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The one thing that seemed certain to employees was thatmany of them would soon lose their jobs, they said.Late Thursday,the ax started falling, as the company hacked away large parts of the workforce of roughly 7,500 people, aiming to reduce costs and reshape Twitter to align with Mr. Musk’s vision. Befitting a platform built for real-time reaction, staffers tweeted as they lost access to company Slack and email accounts, not knowing for sure if that meant they were fired until official termination notices were sent on Friday morning.The mass layoffs were the culmination of a dizzying week under Mr. Musk’s leadership, in which employees tried to adjust to his frenetic working style as their own futures at the company were in doubt. In internal messages and public posts, workers confronted the chaos with a mixture of anguish and wry jokes.One programmer,Sheon Han, tweeted a picture of the Twitter logo next to a head of lettuce, in a spoof on theU.K. tabloid stuntto see if an unrefrigerated head of lettuce would last longer than Prime MinisterLiz Truss. In the case of Ms. Truss, the lettuce won.“My employee login @Twitter vs. Lettuce,” Mr. Han tweeted on Wednesday night, adding, “Let’s goooooooooo.”Mr. Han declined to provide comment about his employment status Friday.Manu Cornet, a 41-year-old software engineer, said he was among the employees who met Mr. Musk at Twitter’s San Francisco headquarters in the billionaire’s first days as the self-styled “Chief Twit.”Mr. Cornet, also an artist, had drawn a cartoon of a man who had accidentally broken a figurine of a bird resembling the Twitter logo, with another man saying: “You break it, you buy it!” He said he gave a copy of the cartoon to Mr. Musk.On Monday, Mr. Cornet said he was summoned to work on new projects. Two days later, he received an email that read, in part: “We regret to inform you that your employment is terminated effective immediately. Your recent behavior has violated multiple policies.”He said he wasn’t sure which policies he had violated. He added that he had recently created a browser extension for downloading work emails, which he believed would help colleagues save important documents in case they got laid off.Mr. Cornet is among agroup of employees who filed a lawsuit against Twitterin San Francisco federal court accusing the company of violating federal and state law by not providing the legally required warning in advance of mass layoffs.Twitter representatives didn’t respond to requests for comment.In an email late Thursday telling employees that they would be informed the following morning if they were fired, the company said the layoffs were “an effort to place Twitter on a healthy path.”Mr. Musk, in a tweet late Friday, said: “Regarding Twitter’s reduction in force, unfortunately there is no choice when the company is losing over $4M/day.” He said affected employees were offered three months of severance.On Saturday, Twitter co-founderJack Dorsey, who stepped down as CEO last year and who supported Mr. Musk’s acquisition, tweeted saying he took responsibility for growing the company too quickly. “I apologize for that,” he wrote.Employees trickled out of Twitter steadily in the months after Mr. Musk’s $44 billion deal in April to buy the company, anxious about how things would play out. As Mr. Musk began to get cold feet, helashed out publicly at Twitter leadersincluding then-CEOParag Agrawal, fueling tension among many employees. Mr. Musk waged a monthslong legal battle to escape the deal before finally agreeing, again, to buy the platform last month.As the billionaire completed the takeoveron Oct. 27, Mr. Agrawal and several other top executives were fired immediately. That was followed by media reports ofplanning for broad layoffs. Fears grew among many employees that Mr. Musk could try to cut jobs before a Nov. 1 stock vesting date, employees said. In a tweet after taking over, Mr. Musk denied that he would do so.That meant employees’ grants were expected to be paid as cash at $54.20 a share, the price Mr. Musk paid for the company, according to SEC filings. The price represented a healthy premium over what Twitter had been valued at before the acquisition, creating a substantial windfall for employees with equity holdings.Shortly after Mr. Musk’s takeover, Twitter managers were told to draw up lists evaluating staffers—essentially deciding who might stay and who might get fired, according to people familiar with the matter. Some employees referred to Mr. Musk’s allies as “goons,” they said.The frustration among some employees was amplified, some of them said, byTesla engineers being brought into examine Twitter employees’ coding work. The Twitter employees believed those evaluations were being factored into the layoff plans, the people said.The specifics of when the layoffs would come, and on what scale, were closely guarded.One senior employee said that even information communicated to the inner circle was unreliable and contradictory. “The chaos level is so high,” the employee said.Mr. Musk gathered acircle of advisers to help him reshape Twitter, including venture-capitalistsJason CalacanisandSriram Krishnan, also a former Twitter product leader. Meanwhile, Mr. Musk fired off tweets about various business possibilities. Employees were given days to develop new products, and plans appeared to change.This rapid-fire approach to product development was a radical departure from the development style at the old Twitter, where any new products were closely studied to gauge how they would affect usage rates and other potential impacts.Mr. Musk’s plan includes changing the platform byexpanding user verificationand improvingthe subscription offeringsto become less reliant on advertisers. He also discussed adding ways for content creators to make money on the platform so that they could earn a living on it, the way creators do on TikTok and YouTube.Mr. Musk at one point tweeted a poll asking whether he should bring back Vine, the short-video service that Twitter shut down in 2016. 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It eventually spilled into public tweets, with the saluting emoji becoming a symbol of the end of the pre-Musk version of the company. “There was this weird sense of celebration,” one employee said. “We were all together marking the ending of this thing.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":226,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9984617383,"gmtCreate":1667616016042,"gmtModify":1676537945037,"author":{"id":"4109821312465410","authorId":"4109821312465410","name":"Joe85","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4109821312465410","idStr":"4109821312465410"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Ok&nbsp;","listText":"Ok&nbsp;","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9984617383","repostId":"1137019731","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":121,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9999345523,"gmtCreate":1660477961164,"gmtModify":1676533477590,"author":{"id":"4109821312465410","authorId":"4109821312465410","name":"Joe85","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4109821312465410","idStr":"4109821312465410"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"K","listText":"K","text":"K","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9999345523","repostId":"1110057750","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1110057750","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1660446286,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1110057750?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-14 11:04","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alibaba Stock: Follow Masayoshi Son, Not Charlie Munger","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1110057750","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"SummaryI explain why investors should not repeat the mistakes of Charlie Munger - it is better to fo","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Summary</p><ul><li>I explain why investors should not repeat the mistakes of Charlie Munger - it is better to follow Softbank&#39;s CEO, Masayoshi Son.</li><li>Mr. Son has decided to reduce his stake in Alibaba from 23.7% to 14.6% - in my opinion, this may create headwinds for BABA in the medium term.</li><li>Investors shouldn&#39;t be fooled by Alibaba&#39;s &#34;low multiples&#34; but to take a broader look at this company and consider all the risks involved.</li><li>Based on a fairly optimistic DCF model, there is a downside of 14% for Alibaba stock.</li><li>The desire to follow the example of Masayoshi Son rather than Charlie Munger seems more logical to me.</li></ul><p>Introduction &amp; Thesis</p><p>On March 24, 2020, Bloomberg wrote about Softbank CEO Masayoshi Son&#39;s plans to sell $14 billion worth of Alibaba shares (NYSE:BABA) to shore up the bank&#39;s businesses, which had been battered by the coronavirus pandemic. This was not the first news of attempts by Masayoshi Son, who was one of the first investors in BABA in 2000, to get rid of the company&#39;s shares - according to a press release from the bank, derivative tradeshave been made since 2016. However, $14 billion in 2020 was quite a large amount, and in the medium term, BABA shares began to correct more than the main benchmarks:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/96b0ceefb3d3bed3af27a07fdd9d3a81\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"450\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Now we see that Softbank faced the problem of deflating the bubble in high-growth companies after the Corona crisis, and will now further reduce its stake in Alibaba stock (from the current 23.7% to 14.6% after settling $34 billion in prepaid forward contracts).</p><p>As from the very beginning of my coverage of Alibaba stock here on Seeking Alpha, I still believe that investors should not follow on the heels of Charlie Munger - there are too many risks in buying this stock, both geopolitical (U.S.-China tensions, Taiwan) and economic (China&#39;s GDP growth slowdown and housing crisis). The pressure on BABA&#39;s quotes is likely to continue due to these two factors, and Softbank&#39;s sale of forward contracts for such a large amount may add to the headwinds for shareholders.</p><p>Masayoshi Son vs. Charlie Munger</p><p>One of the most frequently cited arguments for buying BABA after its phenomenal &gt;50% off high dip is the fact that one of the most famous Western investors, Charlie Munger, bought and held the stock. According to the 13-F filings by his Daily Journal Corp, the 98-year-old investor began buying BABA in the first quarter of 2021 and gradually increased his position throughout 2021 (from 165,320 shares in the first quarter to 602,060 shares in the fourth quarter) until he decided to sell half of the position in the first quarter of 2022 and has not touched BABA since (which is interpreted by some as a bullish sign).</p><p>In my subjective opinion, a 50% reduction of BABA&#39;s position in Daily Journal Corp. in the first quarter is already a sign of Mr. Munger&#39;s capitulation, as this act is not typical of his position in BofA (BAC) or Wells Fargo (WFC) - compare the position size as of the last reporting date [link above] with the portfolio at the end of 2013 to see for yourself.</p><p>Concerning the unchanged amount of BABA shares in the last reporting quarter, it should be noted that other positions have also remained unchanged - Munger has simply decided not to buy or sell anything. The great investor of the 20th century will likely continue to get rid of his position in Alibaba stock, in my view, if the risks in China escalate. Remember what he said about Russian stocks many years ago (emphasis added):</p><blockquote>When asked about Russia, Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett’s partner at Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A) (BRK.B), harrumphed: &#34;<i>We don’t invest in kleptocracies.</i>&#34; One investor famously declared after the market’s meltdown in 1998: &#34;I’d rather eat nuclear waste than invest in Russia.&#34;</blockquote><blockquote>[Source]</blockquote><p>If you have been buying BABA solely on Munger&#39;s moves, then I must warn you: if you look at the performance of his Daily Journal Corp [based on Fintel data from 13-Fs], he has not been able to boast of excessive returns for many years:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f172b8f0ac1e4673cf5741f21754470d\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"420\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><b>Important note:</b>the reported value (RV) above should not be used as a substitute for Assets Under Management (AUM), as it does not include cash held in accounts.However, RV depletion is also an important criterion to consider.</p><p>I think the risks of investing in the Chinese market are becoming more evident every year. While the country&#39;s GDP grew 6-10% annually from the early 1990s until the pandemic began, these risks were ignored by many Western investors. We saw it even more positively when the Chinese GDP began to recover sharply after the 2020 lockdowns. Now, however, the prospects for similar growth rates are vague, as the real estate market, which has largely allowed China to report huge GDP growth rates in the past, is highly leveraged and in crisis, and the country&#39;s overall population is likely to start shrinking due to the low birth rate (which largely precludes the growth of the economy extensively).</p><blockquote>As recently as 2019 the China Academy of Social Sciences expected the population to peak in 2029, at 1.44 billion. The 2019 United Nations Population Prospects report expected the peak later still, in 2031-32, at 1.46 billion.</blockquote><blockquote>The Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences team predicts an annual average decline of 1.1% after 2021, pushing China&#39;s population down to 587 million in 2100, less than half of what it is today.</blockquote><blockquote>[Source]</blockquote><p>The accumulated problems of the Chinese regime drive Xi to continue trying to expand his sole power, because at first glance it seems more reliable to keep everything in one hand. Given the level of corruption in the country, we are dealing with a kleptocratic state - the reason why Munger avoided investing in Russia after 1998.</p><p>Aside from Masayoshi Son being forced to sell his shares in Alibaba, I think Softbank would have dumped its high stake in the company anyway, feeling the pressure from the Communist Party.</p><p>Exactly one year ago, Nikkei Asia published an article citing Son as to how he sees the pressure on China&#39;s tech sector.</p><blockquote>&#34;I strongly believe that China&#39;s AI technology and business model will continue to innovate,&#34; Son said in a news conference. &#34;However, in investment activities, various new regulations have begun, so I want to wait and see what kind of regulations are implemented and what kind of impact they have on the stock market.&#34;</blockquote><blockquote>[Source]</blockquote><p>A year later, he waited, looked around, and decided to reduce his stake in Alibaba from 23.7% to 14.6%.</p><p>This is a smart move that is not about flooding the market with shares all at once - under the terms of the forward contract, Mr. Son will have the right to buy back his BABA shares. However, it is unlikely that he will do so - in any case, we have not seen this happen since 2016. So, in the coming months, there will be a greater supply of Alibaba shares on the market, which will put additional pressure on prices against the backdrop of geopolitical and macroeconomic risks specific to China.</p><p>The company&#39;s financial profile doesn&#39;t help</p><p>The low multiples that made BABA&#39;s stock seem undervalued compared to U.S. tech giants have gotten even lower over the past six months - in line with the stock price:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a100fa0a41ade258d26db19f27c2313b\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"826\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>However, it turned out that this underestimation was evidence of the value trap - the slowdown in economic growth and regulatory problems were making themselves felt. Margins continued their downward trend, and the ratio of EBITDA to sales did not return to the level seen before COVID.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ceb0944814657934f262b18db7db4ec2\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"852\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Sales and earnings growth did not improve as investors expected, so the denominators for most valuation metrics became smaller than the numerators - Seeking Alpha&#39;s factor grade system changed the valuation metric in a negative direction for the company:</p><p>Readers will rightly wonder why the &#34;Profitability&#34; criterion is still rated &#34;A+&#34; against a backdrop of declining business margins and less than stellar ROE / ROA / ROIC indicators. The answer to this question lies in the elements of this criterion - the company&#39;s cash flow from operations (CFO) is the only reason for this superiority over the rest of the sector:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9f0ad942e9b19cfbee3de08d1b1b2009\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"430\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/98d0b575ede1cd3f09a1e124dd313777\" tg-width=\"360\" tg-height=\"300\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Indeed, in the Internet and direct marketing retail industry, of which Alibaba is a part, only 58.62% of companies have a positive CFO. Such companies have a CFO to TTM ratio of 7% (median), while BABA has a similar ratio of 17%, making it a true cash cow. However, for a cash cow, the margin of safety of BABA is highly controversial in terms of DCF modeling:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e33ef5864117b63096db2166e004e764\" tg-width=\"594\" tg-height=\"557\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Even with a fairly optimistic discount rate (10% is low given the risks for the Chinese tech giant) and a very generous assumption of a 15% growth rate over the next 10 years (which is already not the case), there is a downside of 14%, even when adding the tangible book value to the final share price.</p><p>Of course, I could be wrong and the listing of BABA&#39;s shares on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange will create additional demand from investors in mainland China, but it&#39;s not entirely clear what U.S. investors with their ADRs will actually get out of it.</p><p>From this, I conclude that investors shouldn&#39;t be fooled by Alibaba&#39;s &#34;low multiples&#34; but to take a broader look at this company and consider all the risks involved. Then, the desire to follow the example of Masayoshi Son rather than Charlie Munger seems more logical to me.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba Stock: Follow Masayoshi Son, Not Charlie Munger</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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This was not the first news of attempts by Masayoshi Son, who was one of the first investors in BABA in 2000, to get rid of the company's shares - according to a press release from the bank, derivative tradeshave been made since 2016. However, $14 billion in 2020 was quite a large amount, and in the medium term, BABA shares began to correct more than the main benchmarks:Now we see that Softbank faced the problem of deflating the bubble in high-growth companies after the Corona crisis, and will now further reduce its stake in Alibaba stock (from the current 23.7% to 14.6% after settling $34 billion in prepaid forward contracts).As from the very beginning of my coverage of Alibaba stock here on Seeking Alpha, I still believe that investors should not follow on the heels of Charlie Munger - there are too many risks in buying this stock, both geopolitical (U.S.-China tensions, Taiwan) and economic (China's GDP growth slowdown and housing crisis). The pressure on BABA's quotes is likely to continue due to these two factors, and Softbank's sale of forward contracts for such a large amount may add to the headwinds for shareholders.Masayoshi Son vs. Charlie MungerOne of the most frequently cited arguments for buying BABA after its phenomenal >50% off high dip is the fact that one of the most famous Western investors, Charlie Munger, bought and held the stock. According to the 13-F filings by his Daily Journal Corp, the 98-year-old investor began buying BABA in the first quarter of 2021 and gradually increased his position throughout 2021 (from 165,320 shares in the first quarter to 602,060 shares in the fourth quarter) until he decided to sell half of the position in the first quarter of 2022 and has not touched BABA since (which is interpreted by some as a bullish sign).In my subjective opinion, a 50% reduction of BABA's position in Daily Journal Corp. in the first quarter is already a sign of Mr. Munger's capitulation, as this act is not typical of his position in BofA (BAC) or Wells Fargo (WFC) - compare the position size as of the last reporting date [link above] with the portfolio at the end of 2013 to see for yourself.Concerning the unchanged amount of BABA shares in the last reporting quarter, it should be noted that other positions have also remained unchanged - Munger has simply decided not to buy or sell anything. The great investor of the 20th century will likely continue to get rid of his position in Alibaba stock, in my view, if the risks in China escalate. Remember what he said about Russian stocks many years ago (emphasis added):When asked about Russia, Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett’s partner at Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A) (BRK.B), harrumphed: \"We don’t invest in kleptocracies.\" One investor famously declared after the market’s meltdown in 1998: \"I’d rather eat nuclear waste than invest in Russia.\"[Source]If you have been buying BABA solely on Munger's moves, then I must warn you: if you look at the performance of his Daily Journal Corp [based on Fintel data from 13-Fs], he has not been able to boast of excessive returns for many years:Important note:the reported value (RV) above should not be used as a substitute for Assets Under Management (AUM), as it does not include cash held in accounts.However, RV depletion is also an important criterion to consider.I think the risks of investing in the Chinese market are becoming more evident every year. While the country's GDP grew 6-10% annually from the early 1990s until the pandemic began, these risks were ignored by many Western investors. We saw it even more positively when the Chinese GDP began to recover sharply after the 2020 lockdowns. Now, however, the prospects for similar growth rates are vague, as the real estate market, which has largely allowed China to report huge GDP growth rates in the past, is highly leveraged and in crisis, and the country's overall population is likely to start shrinking due to the low birth rate (which largely precludes the growth of the economy extensively).As recently as 2019 the China Academy of Social Sciences expected the population to peak in 2029, at 1.44 billion. The 2019 United Nations Population Prospects report expected the peak later still, in 2031-32, at 1.46 billion.The Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences team predicts an annual average decline of 1.1% after 2021, pushing China's population down to 587 million in 2100, less than half of what it is today.[Source]The accumulated problems of the Chinese regime drive Xi to continue trying to expand his sole power, because at first glance it seems more reliable to keep everything in one hand. Given the level of corruption in the country, we are dealing with a kleptocratic state - the reason why Munger avoided investing in Russia after 1998.Aside from Masayoshi Son being forced to sell his shares in Alibaba, I think Softbank would have dumped its high stake in the company anyway, feeling the pressure from the Communist Party.Exactly one year ago, Nikkei Asia published an article citing Son as to how he sees the pressure on China's tech sector.\"I strongly believe that China's AI technology and business model will continue to innovate,\" Son said in a news conference. \"However, in investment activities, various new regulations have begun, so I want to wait and see what kind of regulations are implemented and what kind of impact they have on the stock market.\"[Source]A year later, he waited, looked around, and decided to reduce his stake in Alibaba from 23.7% to 14.6%.This is a smart move that is not about flooding the market with shares all at once - under the terms of the forward contract, Mr. Son will have the right to buy back his BABA shares. However, it is unlikely that he will do so - in any case, we have not seen this happen since 2016. So, in the coming months, there will be a greater supply of Alibaba shares on the market, which will put additional pressure on prices against the backdrop of geopolitical and macroeconomic risks specific to China.The company's financial profile doesn't helpThe low multiples that made BABA's stock seem undervalued compared to U.S. tech giants have gotten even lower over the past six months - in line with the stock price:However, it turned out that this underestimation was evidence of the value trap - the slowdown in economic growth and regulatory problems were making themselves felt. Margins continued their downward trend, and the ratio of EBITDA to sales did not return to the level seen before COVID.Sales and earnings growth did not improve as investors expected, so the denominators for most valuation metrics became smaller than the numerators - Seeking Alpha's factor grade system changed the valuation metric in a negative direction for the company:Readers will rightly wonder why the \"Profitability\" criterion is still rated \"A+\" against a backdrop of declining business margins and less than stellar ROE / ROA / ROIC indicators. The answer to this question lies in the elements of this criterion - the company's cash flow from operations (CFO) is the only reason for this superiority over the rest of the sector:Indeed, in the Internet and direct marketing retail industry, of which Alibaba is a part, only 58.62% of companies have a positive CFO. Such companies have a CFO to TTM ratio of 7% (median), while BABA has a similar ratio of 17%, making it a true cash cow. However, for a cash cow, the margin of safety of BABA is highly controversial in terms of DCF modeling:Even with a fairly optimistic discount rate (10% is low given the risks for the Chinese tech giant) and a very generous assumption of a 15% growth rate over the next 10 years (which is already not the case), there is a downside of 14%, even when adding the tangible book value to the final share price.Of course, I could be wrong and the listing of BABA's shares on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange will create additional demand from investors in mainland China, but it's not entirely clear what U.S. investors with their ADRs will actually get out of it.From this, I conclude that investors shouldn't be fooled by Alibaba's \"low multiples\" but to take a broader look at this company and consider all the risks involved. Then, the desire to follow the example of Masayoshi Son rather than Charlie Munger seems more logical to me.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":202,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9990571419,"gmtCreate":1660379077037,"gmtModify":1676533462270,"author":{"id":"4109821312465410","authorId":"4109821312465410","name":"Joe85","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4109821312465410","idStr":"4109821312465410"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9990571419","repostId":"1129150866","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1129150866","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1660352614,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129150866?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-08-13 09:03","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why Stock Market Bulls Are Cheering the S&P 500’s Close above 4,231","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129150866","media":"MarketWatch","summary":"Many technical analysts pay attention to what’s known as the Fibonacci ratio, attributed to a 13th century Italian mathematician known as Leonardo “Fibonacci” of Pisa. It’s based on a sequence of whole numbers in which the sum of two adjacent numbers equals the next highest number (0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13, 21…","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e150d7de731c2e2e0ebee4395029900d\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>The S&amp;P 500 index on Friday finished above a chart level that delivered a dose of encouragement to stock-market bulls arguing that the U.S. bear-market bottom is in, though technical analysts warned that it might not be a signal to go all in on equities.</p><p>The S&amp;P 500 on Friday rose 1.7% to close at 4,280.15. The finish above 4,231 would mean the large-cap benchmark has recovered — or retraced — more than 50% of its fall from a Jan. 3 record finish at 4796.56.</p><p>“Since 1950 there has never been a bear market rally that exceeded the 50% retracement and then gone on to make new cycle lows,” said Jonathan Krinsky, chief market technician at BTIG, in a note earlier this month.</p><p>Stocks rose across the board Friday, with the S&amp;P 500 booking a fourth straight weekly gain. The Dow Jones Industrial Average advanced more than 420 points, or 1.3%, on Friday and the Nasdaq Composite rose 2.1%. The S&amp;P 500 attempted to complete the retracement in Thursday’s session, when it traded as high as 4,257.91, but gave up gains to end at 4,207.27.</p><p>Krinsky, in a Thursday update, had noted that an intraday breach of the level doesn’t cut it, but had cautioned that a close above 4,231 would still leave him cautious about the near-term outlook.</p><p>“Because the retracement is based on a closing basis, we would want to see a close above 4,231 to trigger that signal. Whether or not that happens, however, the tactical risk/reward looks poor to us here,” he wrote.</p><p>What’s so special about a 50% retracement? Many technical analysts pay attention to what’s known as the Fibonacci ratio, attributed to a 13th century Italian mathematician known as Leonardo “Fibonacci” of Pisa. It’s based on a sequence of whole numbers in which the sum of two adjacent numbers equals the next highest number (0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13, 21…).</p><p>If a number in the sequence is divided by the next number, for example 8 divided by 13, the result is near 0.618, a ratio that’s been dubbed the Golden Mean due to its prevalence in nature in everything from seashells to ocean waves to proportions of the human body. Back on Wall Street, technical analysts see key retracement targets for a rally from a significant low to a significant peak at 38.2%, 50% and 61.8%, while retracements of 23.6% and 76.4% are seen as secondary targets.</p><p>The push above the 50% retracement level during Thursday’s recession may have contributed to a round of selling itself, said Jeff deGraaf, founder of Renaissance Macro Research, in a Friday note.</p><p>He observed that the retracement corresponded to a 65-day high for the S&amp;P 500, offering another indication of an improving trend in a bear market as it represents the highest level of the last rolling quarter. A 65-day high is often seen as a default signal for commodity trading advisers, not just in the S&amp;P 500 but in commodity, bond and forex markets as well.</p><p>“That level coincidentally corresponded with the 50% retracement level of the bear market,” he wrote. “In essence, it forced the hand of one group to cover shorts (CTAs) while simultaneously giving another group (Fibonacci followers) an excuse to sell” on Thursday.</p><p>Krinsky, meanwhile, cautioned that previous 50% retracements in 1974, 2004, and 2009 all saw decent shakeouts shortly after clearing that threshold.</p><p>“Further, as the market has cheered ‘peak inflation’, we are now seeing a quiet resurgence in many commodities, and bonds continue to weaken,” he wrote Thursday.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why Stock Market Bulls Are Cheering the S&P 500’s Close above 4,231</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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The finish above 4,231 would mean the large-cap benchmark has recovered — or retraced — more than 50% of its fall from a Jan. 3 record finish at 4796.56.“Since 1950 there has never been a bear market rally that exceeded the 50% retracement and then gone on to make new cycle lows,” said Jonathan Krinsky, chief market technician at BTIG, in a note earlier this month.Stocks rose across the board Friday, with the S&P 500 booking a fourth straight weekly gain. The Dow Jones Industrial Average advanced more than 420 points, or 1.3%, on Friday and the Nasdaq Composite rose 2.1%. The S&P 500 attempted to complete the retracement in Thursday’s session, when it traded as high as 4,257.91, but gave up gains to end at 4,207.27.Krinsky, in a Thursday update, had noted that an intraday breach of the level doesn’t cut it, but had cautioned that a close above 4,231 would still leave him cautious about the near-term outlook.“Because the retracement is based on a closing basis, we would want to see a close above 4,231 to trigger that signal. Whether or not that happens, however, the tactical risk/reward looks poor to us here,” he wrote.What’s so special about a 50% retracement? Many technical analysts pay attention to what’s known as the Fibonacci ratio, attributed to a 13th century Italian mathematician known as Leonardo “Fibonacci” of Pisa. It’s based on a sequence of whole numbers in which the sum of two adjacent numbers equals the next highest number (0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13, 21…).If a number in the sequence is divided by the next number, for example 8 divided by 13, the result is near 0.618, a ratio that’s been dubbed the Golden Mean due to its prevalence in nature in everything from seashells to ocean waves to proportions of the human body. Back on Wall Street, technical analysts see key retracement targets for a rally from a significant low to a significant peak at 38.2%, 50% and 61.8%, while retracements of 23.6% and 76.4% are seen as secondary targets.The push above the 50% retracement level during Thursday’s recession may have contributed to a round of selling itself, said Jeff deGraaf, founder of Renaissance Macro Research, in a Friday note.He observed that the retracement corresponded to a 65-day high for the S&P 500, offering another indication of an improving trend in a bear market as it represents the highest level of the last rolling quarter. A 65-day high is often seen as a default signal for commodity trading advisers, not just in the S&P 500 but in commodity, bond and forex markets as well.“That level coincidentally corresponded with the 50% retracement level of the bear market,” he wrote. “In essence, it forced the hand of one group to cover shorts (CTAs) while simultaneously giving another group (Fibonacci followers) an excuse to sell” on Thursday.Krinsky, meanwhile, cautioned that previous 50% retracements in 1974, 2004, and 2009 all saw decent shakeouts shortly after clearing that threshold.“Further, as the market has cheered ‘peak inflation’, we are now seeing a quiet resurgence in many commodities, and bonds continue to weaken,” he wrote Thursday.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":199,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9045870470,"gmtCreate":1656600722190,"gmtModify":1676535860941,"author":{"id":"4109821312465410","authorId":"4109821312465410","name":"Joe85","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4109821312465410","idStr":"4109821312465410"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9045870470","repostId":"1151769798","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1151769798","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1656596479,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1151769798?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-06-30 21:41","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Crypto Stocks Slumped in Morning Trading","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1151769798","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Crypto stocks slumped in morning trading. The9, Ebang Internationa, Marathon Digital, Riot Blockchai","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Crypto stocks slumped in morning trading. The9, Ebang Internationa, Marathon Digital, Riot Blockchain, Coinbase, PayPal, Bit Digital, Block and Canaan fell between 3% and 11%.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9c5db0033a4e8635273d15a59eb382ae\" tg-width=\"284\" tg-height=\"555\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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