Clouded Judgement 9.26.25 - Easy Come, Easy Go?
I’ve found myself having a similar conversation with a number of investors and founders recently, and wanted to flesh it out a bit into a post. It’s a similar topic to the ERR vs ARR debate. I’m calling this one the “Easy come, Easy go?” debate…
Let’s first start out with an undeniable truth - the fastest growing AI companies are defying the laws of gravity when it comes to scaling. The growth some of these companies are seeing is eye watering. 0-$100m in ARR in less than 12 months! Sometimes faster! There are many reasons this type of growth is possible, but I think it boils down to the fact that many markets in AI are truly greenfield, can demonstrate ROI incredibly quickly, and these together lead to crazy adoption cycles and growth.
Yet despite this, I’ve found myself less “sure” of the durability of these revenues. I’m less “confident” than I probably should be given the trajectory in growth. So why is that? Even when it’s companies that I work with directly, I still find myself having anxiety about what the future will hold (relative to say a company 5 years ago that if they had the same growth trajectory I’d be feeling CERTAIN about the future). This is a question that comes up frequently with investors and founders…
So let’s unpack it. Why should I (or others investors or founders) be feeling anxious despite seeing insane growth? Crazy growth is great. BUT there’s also some “downsides” if not appropriately addressed by founders / companies.
Going 0-$100m (or something like that) in a matter of months probably means:
Your implementation time was very short
Your sales cycle was very short
Your champion made a very fast decision
None of these necessarily seem bad in a vacuum, but they could be canaries in the coal mine. Here are some potential “negatives” with those three bullets listed above
Negatives surrounding short implementation cycles:
Switching costs may be low. This benefited you on the initial sale, but also could cost you if your customer wants to switch to another vendor
It was “too easy” to get up and running
Your product depth may lag adoption
Negatives surrounding short sales cycles:
Buyer enthusiasm may be hype driven
Budgets may be experimental, or procurement could have overbought without realizing it
You were the only vendor evaluated
Negatives surrounding your champion making a very fast decision:
You’re champion may be a junior / mid level person without much political sway
You’re champion isn’t as fully bought in. Maybe they made an emotional decision vs one grounded in research / conviction
If I had to sum all of this up into a couple sentences it would be this: Revenue that is acquired at light speed probably isn’t as sticky. It’s probably not as engrained into the customers workflow or processes (because any software will take time for this to be the case). In other words, revenue acquired quickly can also be lost quickly.
Let’s compare this to a more classic enterprise sale. One that takes 6-9 months. In this type of sales cycle there was probably an in depth RFP conducted where many vendors were compared against one another. Multiple levels of the organization were involved in the decision and are “bought in.” Implementation took a while because it had to be more engrained into other systems and workflows. The entire process took a lot of time and energy, so those responsible have a vested interest to “make it work".” All of these are features, not bugs, of an enterprise sales process. It’s a grind, and it’s hard, but if you make it through the gauntlet of an enterprise sales process you probably come out of it with a level of stickiness.
This is not to say these AI hypergrowth revenue streams are bad…far from it. many will build extremely durable businesses. BUT - I think it’s HYPER important for founders and sales teams of these AI hypergrowth companies to not take their revenue for granted… many of them are PLG-ing their way to massive scale. Companies sign up, expand usage rapidly, and all of a sudden are spending 7+ figures. This will grab the attention of your customer.. What started as a smaller deal will now have the CFOs attention. That CFO will start asking questions. How will this spend trend? Are we getting a volume discount? Who else did we look at to put pricing pressure on the vendor? Could we build this ourselves? Can we trust this startup? etc. And here’s what’s important. If you don’t have a direct, regular, and strong relationship with that company or champion, that 7 figure deal will be at significant risk. You can’t take it for granted. Account management is super important. You need to be proactive about reaching out, making these customers feel special, proactively offering volume discounts, spending time in person, etc.
In some ways, AI companies and founders have it “too easy” and are overlooking the important parts of classic enterprise sales (I say that facetiously, obviously nothing is easy…). Or, they never had to learn the lessons of classic enterprise sales because their business was always up and to the right!
This post was a little bit of a brain dump…If there was one takeaway for founders it’s this - don’t take your revenue for granted, what’s easy to come by could be easy to loose.
Is Triple, Triple, Double, Double Dead?
There was a lot of chatter over X this week on “is triple, triple, double, double dead? It clearly struck a nerve! I don’t have a lot to add, but I will say this. Venture is a game of outliers. Funds are made and hit the top 10% for their vintage if they’re in those outliers. And the reality is, the profile and trajectory of what it means to be an outlier has definitely changed. The goalposts have moved now that companies are scaling MUCH faster than triple, triple, double, double. VCs need outliers. So yes, every VC is searching and hunting for MORE than triple, triple, double, double because it has been demonstrated to exist.
This doesn’t mean triple, triple, double, double is bad. It’s still exceptional. You can build an exceptional business, make tons of money for yourself and your employees by having the triple triple double double trajectory early on. BUT - at the same time, it’s also not what’s most exciting to VCs now that there is a cohort of companies performing much better.
Of course, there are caveats. Many of which I listed above. The insane trajectory may not be as durable. We (VCs) all may be chasing a new growth trajectory that proves to be the wrong one! However, VCs are chasing the outliers, and triple triple double double is no longer an outlier. That’s just the reality. I do think Hemanta comments were taken out of context. I’d imagine he’d agree. Triple triple double double is still very good! And you should be proud as a founder to achieve this. But again (and now I’m just repeating myself…), it’s just not what VCs are hoping to get when there is something better out there.
Top 10 EV / NTM Revenue Multiples
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$ $Cloudflare, Inc.(NET)$ $Figma(FIG)$ $CrowdStrike Holdings, Inc.(CRWD)$ $Shopify(SHOP)$ $Snowflake(SNOW)$ $Guidewire(GWRE)$ $Samsara, Inc.(IOT)$ $Zscaler Inc.(ZS)$ $ServiceNow(NOW)$
Top 10 Weekly Share Price Movement
Update on Multiples
SaaS businesses are generally valued on a multiple of their revenue - in most cases the projected revenue for the next 12 months. Revenue multiples are a shorthand valuation framework. Given most software companies are not profitable, or not generating meaningful FCF, it’s the only metric to compare the entire industry against. Even a DCF is riddled with long term assumptions. The promise of SaaS is that growth in the early years leads to profits in the mature years. Multiples shown below are calculated by taking the Enterprise Value (market cap + debt - cash) / NTM revenue.
Overall Stats:
Overall Median: 5.2x
Top 5 Median: 22.4x
10Y: 4.2%
Bucketed by Growth. In the buckets below I consider high growth >25% projected NTM growth, mid growth 15%-25% and low growth <15%
High Growth Median: 27.1x
Mid Growth Median: 8.3x
Low Growth Median: 4.0x
EV / NTM Rev / NTM Growth
The below chart shows the EV / NTM revenue multiple divided by NTM consensus growth expectations. So a company trading at 20x NTM revenue that is projected to grow 100% would be trading at 0.2x. The goal of this graph is to show how relatively cheap / expensive each stock is relative to its growth expectations.
EV / NTM FCF
The line chart shows the median of all companies with a FCF multiple >0x and <100x. I created this subset to show companies where FCF is a relevant valuation metric.
Companies with negative NTM FCF are not listed on the chart
Scatter Plot of EV / NTM Rev Multiple vs NTM Rev Growth
How correlated is growth to valuation multiple?
Operating Metrics
Median NTM growth rate: 12%
Median LTM growth rate: 14%
Median Gross Margin: 76%
Median Operating Margin (2%)
Median FCF Margin: 18%
Median Net Retention: 108%
Median CAC Payback: 32 months
Median S&M % Revenue: 37%
Median R&D % Revenue: 24%
Median G&A % Revenue: 15%
Comps Output
Rule of 40 shows rev growth + FCF margin (both LTM and NTM for growth + margins). FCF calculated as Cash Flow from Operations - Capital Expenditures
GM Adjusted Payback is calculated as: (Previous Q S&M) / (Net New ARR in Q x Gross Margin) x 12. It shows the number of months it takes for a SaaS business to pay back its fully burdened CAC on a gross profit basis. Most public companies don’t report net new ARR, so I’m taking an implied ARR metric (quarterly subscription revenue x 4). Net new ARR is simply the ARR of the current quarter, minus the ARR of the previous quarter. Companies that do not disclose subscription rev have been left out of the analysis and are listed as NA.
For whom haven't open CBA can know more from below:
🏦 Open a CBA today and enjoy privileges of up to SGD 20,000 in trading limit with 0 commission. Trade SG, HK, US stocks as well as ETFs unlimitedly!
Find out more here：
Disclaimer: Investing carries risk. This is not financial advice. The above content should not be regarded as an offer, recommendation, or solicitation on acquiring or disposing of any financial products, any associated discussions, comments, or posts by author or other users should not be considered as such either. It is solely for general information purpose only, which does not consider your own investment objectives, financial situations or needs. TTM assumes no responsibility or warranty for the accuracy and completeness of the information, investors should do their own research and may seek professional advice before investing.
