I think we r indeed in a bear

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Tall Guy
2022-05-16

I think we r indeed in a bear territory. However, hope we will not go into a deep bear. Hope turnaround will be sooner.

Bear Market Rally Has Started, but the Fall Hasn't Finished - Morgan Stanley

With equity "valuations now more attractive, equity markets so oversold and rates potentially stabil

Bear Market Rally Has Started, but the Fall Hasn't Finished - Morgan Stanley

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LimLS
·2022-05-16
Nasdaq had entered technically bear but SP500 and DJ yet to fall into bear. More declines are expected. Let's pray this will be a minor crash, not the major crash like 2000, 2008.
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