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Palantir Stock Embodies the Perils of Buying Growth

PLTR stock looks like a failed stock, but the company is succeeding

Palantir Stock Embodies the Perils of Buying Growth

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It has partners in 48 states, which accept government support payments, meaning income may be no barrier to eating better.</p><p>If just a few of these start-ups turn out to be hits, Palantir investors will see big benefits. But you’re not buying a VC fund. You’re buying a data analysis company.</p><p><b>Bottom Line on PLTR Stock</b></p><p>Palantir is still a very expensive stock. But some stocks grow into a high valuation.<b>Amazon</b> (NASDAQ:<b><u>AMZN</u></b>), for example, fell hard from its $295 per share high in 1999, but it eventually came back.</p><p>I have no problems with the founders’ politics. My problem is with the proprietary software business model. It’s a model where all the benefits go to the business, but so do all the risks. 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