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Elon is another Steve Jobs, making bold statement and get it done. Tesla have many years of progress and that's reason why he is holding onto. Also the banks willing to loan Elon. Whether a bargain or not, you decides.

Half-Price Tesla Stock Is Still No Bargain

Electric vehicles are often described as iPhones on wheels. After a horrible few months forTeslaTSLA3.23%increase; green up pointing triangleshareholders, the question is just how far the comparison g

Half-Price Tesla Stock Is Still No Bargain

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Much of the underperformance has come in the past three months, amid two broad concerns. One is that demand for its products is no longer racing ahead of increasing supply,particularly in China. The other relates to risks surrounding Chief Executive Elon Musk’s purchase of Twitter, which came together in October.The past week has been particularly bad for demand worries. Following earlier news that the company has been cutting prices and offering sales incentives in China, Bloomberg and Reuters reported that it was planning to trim production at its Shanghai factory. Tesla denied the reports, but Bloomberg followed up with details of shorter production shifts.Lower output isn’t completely surprising given that EV sales in China have been on a hot streak ahead of the expiration of some government subsidies, potentially leading to a hangover next year. 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As it turned out, the iPhone could be parlayed into an entire ecosystem, including subscriptions and other high-margin software, that has kept Apple’s profit for the most part growing.Tesla teases the parallel with its guidance that, “over time,” profit from selling cars will be accompanied with “an acceleration of software-related profit.” The big hope here is driver-assistance software, with the company already charging $15,000 for its most advanced package.The Apple comparison, which Mr. Musk made directly in Tesla’sthird-quarter earnings call, has enough substance to keep plenty of Tesla fans onside. But it ignores important differences. Perhaps the most fundamental one is that choosing a car brand has long been a form of personal expression, leading to a variety of brands and vehicle types. Will that change as cars go digital, with individual app and software preferences replacing differences in brand and styling? Maybe, but it is a bet against a century of automotive history.More likely, Tesla’s ambition to increase vehicle deliveries consistently by 50% a year will dilute its margins. Today, these are high because it makes few models on a large scale and sells them for premium prices, helped by the shortage of vehicles in general and EVs in particular. Neither shortage will last forever, and Tesla’s own growth will undercut the combination of exclusivity and operational simplicity that support its current financial performance.As for software, Tesla continues to struggle with its project to automate driving in a way more than a few of its biggest fans might be prepared to pay meaningful sums for. It isn’t alone: The entire industry hasn’t madeas much progress toward commercializing self-driving technology as it once hoped. Even if a breakthrough emerges, there islittle reason to think Tesla would make it. It doesn’t appear to have a lead over Intel’sMobileye, which supplies competitors. 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