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2022-09-21
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There is no Nokia in the automotive industry.
为了活下来,此刻的传统车企正在拼尽全力。
There is no Nokia in the automotive industry.
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2021-09-17
it's quadruple witching day tonight
?【9月17日】恆指低開,美股漲跌不一,今天有啥交易計劃?
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聊聊今日份的交易想法,包括對於大盤走勢後續的看法?看漲/看跌哪隻股票、曬曬單等等。 港股市場 9月17日訊,港股三大指數開盤漲跌不一,恆指跌0.32%報24589點,國指跌0.16%報8791點,恆生科技指數漲0.12%報6240點。盤面上,昨日領銜大跌的地產、物業板塊反彈,$富力地產(02777)$ 、$碧桂園服務(06098)$ 等皆高開,鋰電池股、體育用品股、藥品股、乳業股、建材水泥股等集體上漲,$贛鋒鋰業(01772)$ 、$李寧(02331)$ 皆漲超2%;大型科技股漲跌參半,$京東(JD)$ 高開1%,$快手-W(01024)$ 、$小米集團-W(01810)$ 小幅上漲,$騰訊控股(00700)$ 、
?【9月17日】恆指低開,美股漲跌不一,今天有啥交易計劃?
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2021-09-08
Facebook's metaverse is as interesting as sandbox gaming metaverse
?【9月8日】大摩:美股將大跌12%?比特幣先跌爲敬!今天買什麼?
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聊聊今日份的交易想法,包括對於大盤走勢後續的看法?看漲/看跌哪隻股票、曬曬單等等。 港股市場 9月8日訊,港股三大指數集體高開,恆指漲0.16%報26396點,國指漲0.28%報9494點,恆生科技指數漲0.62%報6930點。 盤面上,藥品股、體育用品股、教育股、菸草概念股、濠賭股、銀行股、餐飲股多數上漲,$招商銀行(03968)$ 漲超2%;大型科技股$快手-W(01024)$ 高開3%,$騰訊控股(00700)$ 漲2%總市值重回5萬港元上方,$美團-W(03690)$ 漲1.6%;恆大概念股繼續下挫,$中國恆大(03333)$ 跌2%觸及發行價3.5港元,較年內高點已跌去約80%;內房股、黃金股、汽車股走低明顯。 美股市場 標準普爾500指數收低,納斯達克指數微升至紀錄高位,道瓊斯指數收盤下跌0.76%,標普500指數收盤下跌0.34%,納斯達克綜合指數收盤上漲0.07%。摩根士丹利預計隨着美聯儲準備放鬆寬鬆貨幣政策,美股在9-10月份將經歷一段坎坷之路。摩根士丹利將標普500指數的年終目標點位維持在4000點,較上週五收盤的4535.43點下跌約12%。 熱門中概股週二收盤多數上漲,新能源汽車股走高;區塊
?【9月8日】大摩:美股將大跌12%?比特幣先跌爲敬!今天買什麼?
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2021-09-06
$A2 Milk(A2M.AU)$
waiting Oz to open border
?【9月6日】看本週關鍵事件,聊今日交易計劃
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聊聊今日份的交易想法,包括對於大盤走勢後續的看法?看漲/看跌哪隻股票、曬曬單等等。 港股市場 9月6日訊,港股三大指數集體低開,恆指跌0.29%報25827點,國指跌0.33%報9260點,恆生就指數跌0.61%報6687點。盤面上,大型科技股普跌,$美團-W(03690)$ 跌超2%,$快手-W(01024)$ 跌1.8%,$京東集團-SW(09618)$ 跌1%,$阿里巴巴-SW(09988)$ 、$網易-S(09999)$ 小幅下跌,$騰訊控股(00700)$ 漲0.29%;手機概念股、家電股、醫療設備股跌幅明顯;另一方面,教育股集體高開,$新東方在線(01797)$ 漲3.8%,$宇華教育(06169)$ 、
?【9月6日】看本週關鍵事件,聊今日交易計劃
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2021-09-02
watching paint to dry...had bought some Chinese stocks few days ago.
?【9月2日】漲瘋,中概再現集體大反彈!今天買什麼?
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聊聊今日份的交易想法,包括對於大盤走勢後續的看法?看漲/看跌哪隻股票、曬曬單等等。 港股市場 9月2日,恆生指數開盤上漲175.23點,漲幅0.67%,報26203.52點;國企指數開盤上漲109.89點,漲幅1.19%,報9381.21點;紅籌指數開盤下跌3.23點,跌幅0.08%,報3936.2點。 恆生科技指數高開近2%,科技股普遍走高,$美團-W(03690)$ 漲近4%,$阿里巴巴-SW(09988)$ 漲近3%,$騰訊控股(00700)$ 漲超2%,$小米集團-W(01810)$ 漲超1%。 藥品股強勢,$京東健康(06618)$ 漲3.5%,$國藥控股(01099)$ 、$復星醫藥(02196)$ 升超2%;乳業股、教育股、汽車股、菸草概念股、物業股多數上揚;香港銀行股下跌明顯,石油股、藍籌地產股普跌。
?【9月2日】漲瘋,中概再現集體大反彈!今天買什麼?
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2021-09-01
hk market rebounding
?【9月1日】續漲!迴光返照還是觸底反彈?今天買什麼?
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聊聊今日份的交易想法,包括對於大盤走勢後續的看法?看漲/看跌哪隻股票、曬曬單等等。 港股市場 9月1日,恆生指數開盤下跌7.17點,跌幅0.03%,報25871.82點;國企指數開盤下跌3.98點,跌幅0.04%,報9179.78點;紅籌指數開盤下跌6.58點,跌幅0.17%,報3907.48點;恆生科技指數漲0.39% 盤面上,手機概念股、光伏股、濠賭股、藍籌地產股、體育用品股、物管股、燃氣股多數上漲,$舜宇光學科技(02382)$ 高開3.57%;大型科技股漲跌參半,$騰訊控股(00700)$ 、$京東集團-SW(09618)$ 小幅高開,$快手-W(01024)$ 、$阿里巴巴-SW(09988)$ 跌超1%;內房股普跌,$綠城中國(03900)$ 低開逾4%,家電股、保險股、汽車股走弱,中國太保跌1.6%,$吉利汽車(00175)$ 跌1%。
?【9月1日】續漲!迴光返照還是觸底反彈?今天買什麼?
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2021-08-25
keep monitoring
?【8月25日】中概瘋狂反撲,今天有什麼操作?
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聊聊今日份的交易想法,包括對於大盤走勢後續的看法?看漲/看跌哪隻股票、曬曬單等等。 港股市場 8月25日,隔夜中概股繼續反彈大漲,港股科網股集體高開,恆生科技指數漲2.54%報6609點,恆指漲079%報25930點,國指漲1.01%報9190點。 盤面上,大型科網股$騰訊控股(00700)$ 、$京東集團-SW(09618)$ 大漲逾5%,$百度集團-SW(09888)$ 、$騰訊控股(00700)$ 、$美團-W(03690)$ 大漲超4%,$快手-W(01024)$ 大漲3.3%,$美團-W(03690)$ 大漲2.58%,$京東健康(06618)$ 績後漲超7%。;教育股全線大漲,
?【8月25日】中概瘋狂反撲,今天有什麼操作?
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2021-08-24
ESG TREND
投資14億美元打造環保船隊,馬士基預計到2050年達到淨零排放的目標
@美股研究社:
此外,馬士基可以選擇在2025年再有另外四艘船交付。美股研究社獲悉,據智通財經消息,全球最大的集裝箱航運公司馬士基($A.P. Moeller-Maersk A/S(AMKBY)$ 正投資14億美元以打造更環保的船隊。該公司訂購了八艘以綠色甲醇爲燃料的集裝箱新船,每艘船可裝載1.6萬個集裝箱,每艘耗資1.75億美元,預計將於2024年交付。此前,爲加快脫碳進程,馬士基曾宣佈將於2023年啓用以綠色甲醇爲燃料的小型集裝箱船舶,並在2030年之前擁有一個碳中和船隊,以實現2050年淨零排放的目標。此外,該公司還於上週與丹麥公司REintegrate簽署了一份綠色甲醇合同以確保燃料供應。馬士基承認,從服務的第一天起,爲船舶找到足夠的碳中性甲醇將是“具有挑戰性的”。能夠同時使用甲醇和傳統石油衍生的低硫船用燃料的額外設計成本將佔船舶總價的10-15%。該公司計劃儘快在新船中使用碳中性e-甲醇,或可持續生物甲醇。據瞭解,馬士基並不是唯一一個開始轉型的航運公司。比利時跨國航運公司Euronav NV(EURN.US)訂購了能夠在一天內使用氨氣或液化天然氣運行的新船;大宗商品交易商嘉吉公司(Cargill Inc.)表示,計劃爲其部分船隊增加所謂的“翼帆”。本文來源:美股研究社,旨在幫助中國投資者理解世界,專注報道美國科技股和中概股,對美股感興趣的朋友趕緊關注我們
投資14億美元打造環保船隊,馬士基預計到2050年達到淨零排放的目標
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2021-08-20
ditch chinese stocks
?【8月20日】又見紅海一大片,今天抄底還是割肉?
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聊聊今日份的交易想法,包括對於大盤走勢後續的看法?看漲/看跌哪隻股票、曬曬單等等。 港股市場 8月20日訊,港股三大指數低開,恆指跌0.3%報25241點,國指跌0.24%報8894點,恆生科技指數跌0.38%報6020點。 盤面上,電信股強勢,$中國聯通(00762)$ 大幅高開5.6%,中電信漲1%;藥品股、教育股、燃氣股、物管股個別走強,$宇華教育(06169)$ 、$恆大物業(06666)$ 、$華潤燃氣(01193)$ 皆漲超3%;和小米初步洽談股份出售,恆大概念股集體高開,$恆大汽車(00708)$ 大漲9%;大型科網股繼續弱勢,$阿里巴巴-SW(09988)$ 、$網易-S(09999)$ 低開2.5%,$美團-W(03690)$ 跌超1%;內房股、石油股、光伏股普
?【8月20日】又見紅海一大片,今天抄底還是割肉?
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2021-08-19
buy xpev
?【8月19日】美聯儲跺跺腳,股市抖三抖,今天有哪些操作?
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聊聊今日份的交易想法,包括對於大盤走勢後續的看法?看漲/看跌哪隻股票、曬曬單等等。 港股市場 8月19日訊,港股三大指數低開,恆指跌0.31%報25787點,國指跌0.1%報9141點,恆生科技指數跌0.27%報6209點。盤面上,大型科網股漲跌不一,$騰訊控股(00700)$ 績後高開2.7%,$網易-S(09999)$ 漲2.55%,$阿里巴巴-SW(09988)$ 跌近2%,$快手-W(01024)$ 跌1%;豬肉概念股繼續大跌,$萬洲國際(00288)$ 續跌超3%;石油股、教育股、物管股、鋼鐵股普跌;藥品股強勢,$中國生物製藥(01177)$ 發盈喜,大幅高開8.5%,$白雲山(00874)$ 漲超4%;內房股、汽車股、體育用品股、光伏股多數上揚,$寶龍地產(01238)$
?【8月19日】美聯儲跺跺腳,股市抖三抖,今天有哪些操作?
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On July 11th of this year, Luo Yonghao, founder of Smartisan Technology, stated on a live streaming platform: \"Traditional automakers have clearly fallen behind.\"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">smart</a>In the era of electric vehicles, traditional automakers have absolutely no chance.</p><p>However, due to Luo Yonghao's internet celebrity status and past entrepreneurial experience, many netizens left comments saying, \"You made a good judgment, don't make that judgment next time.\"</p><p>In fact, Luo Yonghao's judgment was simply a correct conclusion placed at the wrong time—if he had said this last year or even at the beginning of this year, his reputation among netizens would not have been so low.</p><p>However, what's quite dramatic is that right after he made these disdainful remarks about traditional car companies, he immediately went to endorse a traditional car company – the Volvo S90.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ac83d94614bf65de7662c08f0c1f732d\" tg-width=\"869\" tg-height=\"489\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Although Luo Yonghao is still being proven wrong on both sides, traditional automakers have already solidly won the crucial battle.</p><p>August data shows that among the top ten best-selling new energy vehicles, only \"Nezha Auto\" can be considered a \"new force,\" but it also carries a traditional veneer.</p><p>Other than<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>outside,<b>These are all traditional automakers that were once looked down upon by people like Luo Yonghao.</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c13d463a96dda932277688a8b21d2463\" tg-width=\"659\" tg-height=\"626\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>However, on the other hand, traditional automakers, who have already risen to prominence, have not let their guard down.</p><p>In March this year,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/000625\">Changan Automobile</a>At the 2022 China EV100 Forum, Chairman Zhu Huarong made no secret of the opportunities for traditional automakers in the new energy world, saying: \"I believe that in the next 3-5 years, 80% of Chinese (gasoline vehicle) brands will 'close down and merge' (i.e., close down, stop production, merge, and transform).\"</p><p>Because this battle, which lasted at least three rounds, had only just reached its second round.</p><p>Battle 1: Traditional automakers lose</p><p>In the first round of the battle between traditional automakers and emerging electric vehicle manufacturers, perhaps only traditional automakers will emerge victorious.<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/002594\">BYD</a>This company, and Wang Chuanfu's famous quote, has been continuously validated in reality:</p><p><b>The process of electrification is accelerating. It's not about big fish eating small fish, but about fast fish eating slow fish. Only by being fast can we overtake others.</b>\"Speed\" has become the most prominent characteristic of all \"new forces\" and a pursuit they dream of day and night.</p><p>Having started businesses in the internet sector is perhaps the most obvious reason for the speed of these \"new forces,\" such as Li Bin of Yiche.com.<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ATHM\">Autohome</a>Li Xiang of UCWatch and He Xiaopeng of UCWatch each bear the imprint of the early, unbridled growth of the internet.</p><p>However, in terms of timing, traditional domestic automakers did not start late.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a>XPeng and<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">Li Auto</a>Founded in 2014-2015, during the same period, Li Shufu led Geely to launch the \"Blue Geely Action Plan\", while BAIC New Energy proposed the \"Weilan Business Plan 2.0\".</p><p>After Geely launched the pure electric vehicle Emgrand EV in 2015, its sales reached 27,000 units that year and 49,000 units in 2016. However, it did not build on its success and continued to focus on the gasoline vehicle market. Furthermore, from a brand strategy perspective, Geely's new energy vehicles, such as Geely Emgrand and Geometry, have experienced internal conflicts, leading to resource consumption.</p><p><b>In essence, traditional automakers generally do not understand the essence of \"speed\"—it is not about starting early, but about rapid route iteration, the courage to invest heavily, and the determination not to look back until they hit a wall.</b></p><p>It's not hard to understand why they can't be \"fast\": traditional automakers face an \"innovation dilemma\" that is now almost universally known—<b>We need to continue to dominate the traditional gasoline vehicle market, quickly enter the new energy vehicle market, and at the same time experiment with minimal cost.</b></p><p>When a ship is large, it is difficult to turn around. \"Path dependence\" is too general a term to explain this problem. Behind it lies naked economic calculations.</p><p>Li Bin's statement that \"you can't build new energy vehicles without 20 billion yuan\" is not an exaggeration. To this day, the semi-annual reports of the three companies, NIO, Xiaoli, and Li, show that they are still burning through money at a rate of losing anywhere from 600 million to 5 billion yuan.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/42b389fad8686f170e85770e10227a8d\" tg-width=\"845\" tg-height=\"1021\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Traditional automakers that have built their cars from the world of gasoline-powered vehicles, with their \"stability\" in their DNA, obviously cannot directly abandon their \"cash cow\" business and invest recklessly in the new energy world. They also do not have that much money to squander.</p><p>So they chose a small internal trial and error approach, but the end result was a complete mess—some were addicted to converting gasoline to electricity, some were addicted to the B-end market, and some couldn't give up their old identities. In short, they didn't succeed.</p><p>The general manager of SAIC-GM once described his new energy vehicle users as follows: \"There are only a few hundred thousand individual buyers, and the rest are sold to the B-end mobility market.\"</p><p>It goes without saying that emerging players have achieved victories in sales, while the signature defeat of traditional automakers is the famous \"stock price\" event - on June 10, 2020, Tesla's market value surpassed that of the traditional Japanese car brand Toyota for the first time, becoming the world's most valuable automaker.</p><p>Although five years have passed since its inception, traditional automakers have finally realized that the world has changed.</p><p>Looking back, the main reason traditional automakers lost in the first round was their slowness, which was due to hesitation.</p><p>Battle 2: New forces lose</p><p>If the initial hesitation and hesitation regarding costs mainly stemmed from uncertainty about the prospects of new energy vehicles, then from that moment in June 2020, traditional automakers understood that this path was inevitable.</p><p>New energy vehicles are no longer something they only see as brands that have achieved nothing in the gasoline vehicle field.<b>New energy is no longer even the future, but the present.</b></p><p>However, the harsh reality before us is that there is only one reason to lose a war, but to win a war, we need to leverage the resources of many parties.</p><p>The primary force is to break down the old and welcome the new—<b>Building a new brand</b>。</p><p>If it's difficult to transform into a large account, then train a small account.</p><p>Many seemingly new brands have emerged on the market that are actually backed by traditional automakers—such as Geely's Jike, GAC's Aion, Dongfeng's Voyah, Changan's Avita, and Great Wall's Salon.</p><p>Those with stronger capabilities start from scratch, while those with weaker capabilities choose to join forces with major technology companies to create new brands.</p><p>Of course, just having a new brand is no longer enough. For example, GAC Aion launched its high-end brand Hyper on September 15, and Nezha, priced below 100,000 yuan, has also begun to enter the high-end coupe market.</p><p>On a side note, while traditional automakers began to shape new brands, emerging players began to work hard to build factories. The two rivals followed each other's old paths, exchanging personas and becoming the versions they once hated the most.</p><p>But this may be the unstoppable law of the industry—ultimately, it will be about learning from each other's strengths and launching a full-scale war.</p><p><b>The second force is capital.</b></p><p>Manufacturing cars requires burning money, which is one of the important reasons why traditional automakers hesitated in the past, and the smooth financing is also the confidence of emerging players to make rapid progress.</p><p>Now, traditional automakers are also starting to make money.</p><p>In recent months, several new energy brands, including Aion, Zhiji, Avita, and Voyah, have announced news of financing and pre-capital increases.</p><p>Taking Jike as an example, last August, Jike received...<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INTC\">Intel</a>capital,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300750\">CATL</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BILI\">Bilibili</a>The strategic investment of five companies, Hongshang Group and Boyu Investment, totaling US$500 million, accounts for approximately 5.6% of Jike's shares. As a result, its valuation is close to US$10 billion (approximately RMB 69.7 billion), ranking first in the valuation list of new brands of traditional automakers.</p><p>An executive from a traditional automaker interviewed by a media outlet once said that he had full confidence in leading domestic automakers catching up.</p><p>\"In recent years, emerging automakers have done well and created a demand range. (Traditional automakers) were unsure and did not dare to invest heavily. Now that they have seen the trend, they still have the ability to catch up.\"</p><p>In fact, the data proves that traditional automakers have already won this second battle steadily. Many companies on the 2015 list have disappeared, and even \"Weixiaoli,\" which was still in the top ten in 2021, has disappeared from this year's list.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/67f6c20555bb46b492e752ace4a338a5\" tg-width=\"869\" tg-height=\"825\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>When sales are booming, the competition between who can survive the consumption rhythm of \"losing money selling cars\" and traditional automakers with stronger financial resources and continuous financial support from gasoline-powered vehicles is more likely to win.</p><p>After all, it is already fortunate that the sales of the initial emerging car manufacturers have now been overtaken by traditional car companies. Moreover, countless once-famous brands have died on the eve of dawn, such as Byton, Saleen, and Bordrin.</p><p>Battle Three:?</p><p>Traditional automakers that won the second round will face a more complex and unpredictable battlefield.</p><p>In the traditional automotive industry, the drive system of a gasoline vehicle with the internal combustion engine at its core is a mechanical system with complex power component assembly lines. In addition, the chassis also needs to consider fuel pipes, fuel tanks and exhaust pipes, making the process very complex.</p><p>Therefore, a vehicle manufacturer is a system that constantly refines its technology and accumulates experience. Parts can be purchased from outside, but the refined system must be its own. Of course, if a certain part can manage the function of the whole vehicle, then the vehicle manufacturer will generally choose to develop it independently and will not hand it over to others.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7d5b52c317af2675f77a2b8228bf63a6\" tg-width=\"925\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Source: \"Analysis of the Final Assembly Process of Pure Electric Vehicles Based on Comparison with Traditional Vehicles,\" drawn by Lithium Cat Lab.</p><p>Under this technological landscape, the profit margins of car manufacturing are also concentrated in the hands of OEMs.</p><p>But in the era of electric vehicles, the situation is very different.</p><p>With batteries, which account for 40% of the cost, becoming the heart of a car and intelligent systems with almost no marginal cost becoming its soul, the traditional automotive value chain is being reshaped and rewritten.</p><p>GAC laments that it \"works\" for CATL, and everyone will...<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/601127\">Seres</a>The reasons behind being considered a \"contract manufacturer\" for Huawei are all based on this.</p><p><b>The outcome of the third battle remains unknown, but it is clear that no strong traditional automaker is willing to hand over its heart and soul.</b></p><p>Domestic automakers such as Geely, Great Wall Motors, and GAC have all achieved a dual-track layout in the fields of electrification and intelligentization through internal incubation.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00175\">Geely Automobile</a>Through ECARX, the company focuses on intelligent cockpits and autonomous driving, and recently acquired Meizu mobile phones, aiming to create a smart cockpit experience that integrates in-vehicle infotainment and mobile phones.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/601633\">Great Wall Motors</a>In the field of electrification, it incubated companies such as SVOLT Energy, which controls the battery supply chain. In the field of intelligentization, it incubated companies such as Xiandou Intelligent, which focuses on intelligent cockpits, and Haomo Intelligent Mobility (now independent), which focuses on autonomous driving.</p><p>While supporting secondary suppliers, GAC Group is also researching its own batteries and developing the ADiGO autonomous driving system in terms of intelligence.</p><p>Traditional automakers that are less confident have chosen to join forces with internet companies, such as Seres and Changan, which have chosen to cooperate with Huawei.</p><p>Although this kind of cooperation may cause automakers to \"lose their souls\" to some extent, combining the resource advantages of traditional automakers in the supply chain and the manufacturing experience accumulated over many years, as well as the autonomous driving technology that internet companies have kept under wraps, can at least ensure their survival.</p><p><b>However, if we compare horizontally, traditional automakers with weaker strength still have a chance to survive by selling their souls, while the weaker \"emerging\" automakers may only face one fate - death.</b></p><p>Ending</p><p>Killed by the times<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NOK\">Nokia</a>As CEO Olila famously said, \"We didn't do anything wrong, but for some reason, we lost.\"</p><p>It is often said that today's new energy vehicles are like smartphones of yesteryear, and having learned from past experiences, no automaker wants to become...<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/0HAF.UK\">Nokia</a>。</p><p>However, even if they lost, they might already know why they lost.</p><p>But regardless of the outcome, traditional automakers are doing everything they can to survive.</p><p></body></html></p>","source":"lsy1646112585011","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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On July 11th of this year, Luo Yonghao, founder of Smartisan Technology, stated on a live streaming platform: \"Traditional automakers have clearly fallen behind.\"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">smart</a>In the era of electric vehicles, traditional automakers have absolutely no chance.</p><p>However, due to Luo Yonghao's internet celebrity status and past entrepreneurial experience, many netizens left comments saying, \"You made a good judgment, don't make that judgment next time.\"</p><p>In fact, Luo Yonghao's judgment was simply a correct conclusion placed at the wrong time—if he had said this last year or even at the beginning of this year, his reputation among netizens would not have been so low.</p><p>However, what's quite dramatic is that right after he made these disdainful remarks about traditional car companies, he immediately went to endorse a traditional car company – the Volvo S90.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ac83d94614bf65de7662c08f0c1f732d\" tg-width=\"869\" tg-height=\"489\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Although Luo Yonghao is still being proven wrong on both sides, traditional automakers have already solidly won the crucial battle.</p><p>August data shows that among the top ten best-selling new energy vehicles, only \"Nezha Auto\" can be considered a \"new force,\" but it also carries a traditional veneer.</p><p>Other than<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>outside,<b>These are all traditional automakers that were once looked down upon by people like Luo Yonghao.</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c13d463a96dda932277688a8b21d2463\" tg-width=\"659\" tg-height=\"626\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>However, on the other hand, traditional automakers, who have already risen to prominence, have not let their guard down.</p><p>In March this year,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/000625\">Changan Automobile</a>At the 2022 China EV100 Forum, Chairman Zhu Huarong made no secret of the opportunities for traditional automakers in the new energy world, saying: \"I believe that in the next 3-5 years, 80% of Chinese (gasoline vehicle) brands will 'close down and merge' (i.e., close down, stop production, merge, and transform).\"</p><p>Because this battle, which lasted at least three rounds, had only just reached its second round.</p><p>Battle 1: Traditional automakers lose</p><p>In the first round of the battle between traditional automakers and emerging electric vehicle manufacturers, perhaps only traditional automakers will emerge victorious.<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/002594\">BYD</a>This company, and Wang Chuanfu's famous quote, has been continuously validated in reality:</p><p><b>The process of electrification is accelerating. It's not about big fish eating small fish, but about fast fish eating slow fish. Only by being fast can we overtake others.</b>\"Speed\" has become the most prominent characteristic of all \"new forces\" and a pursuit they dream of day and night.</p><p>Having started businesses in the internet sector is perhaps the most obvious reason for the speed of these \"new forces,\" such as Li Bin of Yiche.com.<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ATHM\">Autohome</a>Li Xiang of UCWatch and He Xiaopeng of UCWatch each bear the imprint of the early, unbridled growth of the internet.</p><p>However, in terms of timing, traditional domestic automakers did not start late.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a>XPeng and<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">Li Auto</a>Founded in 2014-2015, during the same period, Li Shufu led Geely to launch the \"Blue Geely Action Plan\", while BAIC New Energy proposed the \"Weilan Business Plan 2.0\".</p><p>After Geely launched the pure electric vehicle Emgrand EV in 2015, its sales reached 27,000 units that year and 49,000 units in 2016. However, it did not build on its success and continued to focus on the gasoline vehicle market. Furthermore, from a brand strategy perspective, Geely's new energy vehicles, such as Geely Emgrand and Geometry, have experienced internal conflicts, leading to resource consumption.</p><p><b>In essence, traditional automakers generally do not understand the essence of \"speed\"—it is not about starting early, but about rapid route iteration, the courage to invest heavily, and the determination not to look back until they hit a wall.</b></p><p>It's not hard to understand why they can't be \"fast\": traditional automakers face an \"innovation dilemma\" that is now almost universally known—<b>We need to continue to dominate the traditional gasoline vehicle market, quickly enter the new energy vehicle market, and at the same time experiment with minimal cost.</b></p><p>When a ship is large, it is difficult to turn around. \"Path dependence\" is too general a term to explain this problem. Behind it lies naked economic calculations.</p><p>Li Bin's statement that \"you can't build new energy vehicles without 20 billion yuan\" is not an exaggeration. To this day, the semi-annual reports of the three companies, NIO, Xiaoli, and Li, show that they are still burning through money at a rate of losing anywhere from 600 million to 5 billion yuan.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/42b389fad8686f170e85770e10227a8d\" tg-width=\"845\" tg-height=\"1021\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Traditional automakers that have built their cars from the world of gasoline-powered vehicles, with their \"stability\" in their DNA, obviously cannot directly abandon their \"cash cow\" business and invest recklessly in the new energy world. They also do not have that much money to squander.</p><p>So they chose a small internal trial and error approach, but the end result was a complete mess—some were addicted to converting gasoline to electricity, some were addicted to the B-end market, and some couldn't give up their old identities. In short, they didn't succeed.</p><p>The general manager of SAIC-GM once described his new energy vehicle users as follows: \"There are only a few hundred thousand individual buyers, and the rest are sold to the B-end mobility market.\"</p><p>It goes without saying that emerging players have achieved victories in sales, while the signature defeat of traditional automakers is the famous \"stock price\" event - on June 10, 2020, Tesla's market value surpassed that of the traditional Japanese car brand Toyota for the first time, becoming the world's most valuable automaker.</p><p>Although five years have passed since its inception, traditional automakers have finally realized that the world has changed.</p><p>Looking back, the main reason traditional automakers lost in the first round was their slowness, which was due to hesitation.</p><p>Battle 2: New forces lose</p><p>If the initial hesitation and hesitation regarding costs mainly stemmed from uncertainty about the prospects of new energy vehicles, then from that moment in June 2020, traditional automakers understood that this path was inevitable.</p><p>New energy vehicles are no longer something they only see as brands that have achieved nothing in the gasoline vehicle field.<b>New energy is no longer even the future, but the present.</b></p><p>However, the harsh reality before us is that there is only one reason to lose a war, but to win a war, we need to leverage the resources of many parties.</p><p>The primary force is to break down the old and welcome the new—<b>Building a new brand</b>。</p><p>If it's difficult to transform into a large account, then train a small account.</p><p>Many seemingly new brands have emerged on the market that are actually backed by traditional automakers—such as Geely's Jike, GAC's Aion, Dongfeng's Voyah, Changan's Avita, and Great Wall's Salon.</p><p>Those with stronger capabilities start from scratch, while those with weaker capabilities choose to join forces with major technology companies to create new brands.</p><p>Of course, just having a new brand is no longer enough. For example, GAC Aion launched its high-end brand Hyper on September 15, and Nezha, priced below 100,000 yuan, has also begun to enter the high-end coupe market.</p><p>On a side note, while traditional automakers began to shape new brands, emerging players began to work hard to build factories. The two rivals followed each other's old paths, exchanging personas and becoming the versions they once hated the most.</p><p>But this may be the unstoppable law of the industry—ultimately, it will be about learning from each other's strengths and launching a full-scale war.</p><p><b>The second force is capital.</b></p><p>Manufacturing cars requires burning money, which is one of the important reasons why traditional automakers hesitated in the past, and the smooth financing is also the confidence of emerging players to make rapid progress.</p><p>Now, traditional automakers are also starting to make money.</p><p>In recent months, several new energy brands, including Aion, Zhiji, Avita, and Voyah, have announced news of financing and pre-capital increases.</p><p>Taking Jike as an example, last August, Jike received...<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INTC\">Intel</a>capital,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300750\">CATL</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BILI\">Bilibili</a>The strategic investment of five companies, Hongshang Group and Boyu Investment, totaling US$500 million, accounts for approximately 5.6% of Jike's shares. As a result, its valuation is close to US$10 billion (approximately RMB 69.7 billion), ranking first in the valuation list of new brands of traditional automakers.</p><p>An executive from a traditional automaker interviewed by a media outlet once said that he had full confidence in leading domestic automakers catching up.</p><p>\"In recent years, emerging automakers have done well and created a demand range. (Traditional automakers) were unsure and did not dare to invest heavily. Now that they have seen the trend, they still have the ability to catch up.\"</p><p>In fact, the data proves that traditional automakers have already won this second battle steadily. Many companies on the 2015 list have disappeared, and even \"Weixiaoli,\" which was still in the top ten in 2021, has disappeared from this year's list.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/67f6c20555bb46b492e752ace4a338a5\" tg-width=\"869\" tg-height=\"825\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>When sales are booming, the competition between who can survive the consumption rhythm of \"losing money selling cars\" and traditional automakers with stronger financial resources and continuous financial support from gasoline-powered vehicles is more likely to win.</p><p>After all, it is already fortunate that the sales of the initial emerging car manufacturers have now been overtaken by traditional car companies. Moreover, countless once-famous brands have died on the eve of dawn, such as Byton, Saleen, and Bordrin.</p><p>Battle Three:?</p><p>Traditional automakers that won the second round will face a more complex and unpredictable battlefield.</p><p>In the traditional automotive industry, the drive system of a gasoline vehicle with the internal combustion engine at its core is a mechanical system with complex power component assembly lines. In addition, the chassis also needs to consider fuel pipes, fuel tanks and exhaust pipes, making the process very complex.</p><p>Therefore, a vehicle manufacturer is a system that constantly refines its technology and accumulates experience. Parts can be purchased from outside, but the refined system must be its own. Of course, if a certain part can manage the function of the whole vehicle, then the vehicle manufacturer will generally choose to develop it independently and will not hand it over to others.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7d5b52c317af2675f77a2b8228bf63a6\" tg-width=\"925\" tg-height=\"219\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Source: \"Analysis of the Final Assembly Process of Pure Electric Vehicles Based on Comparison with Traditional Vehicles,\" drawn by Lithium Cat Lab.</p><p>Under this technological landscape, the profit margins of car manufacturing are also concentrated in the hands of OEMs.</p><p>But in the era of electric vehicles, the situation is very different.</p><p>With batteries, which account for 40% of the cost, becoming the heart of a car and intelligent systems with almost no marginal cost becoming its soul, the traditional automotive value chain is being reshaped and rewritten.</p><p>GAC laments that it \"works\" for CATL, and everyone will...<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/601127\">Seres</a>The reasons behind being considered a \"contract manufacturer\" for Huawei are all based on this.</p><p><b>The outcome of the third battle remains unknown, but it is clear that no strong traditional automaker is willing to hand over its heart and soul.</b></p><p>Domestic automakers such as Geely, Great Wall Motors, and GAC have all achieved a dual-track layout in the fields of electrification and intelligentization through internal incubation.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/00175\">Geely Automobile</a>Through ECARX, the company focuses on intelligent cockpits and autonomous driving, and recently acquired Meizu mobile phones, aiming to create a smart cockpit experience that integrates in-vehicle infotainment and mobile phones.</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/601633\">Great Wall Motors</a>In the field of electrification, it incubated companies such as SVOLT Energy, which controls the battery supply chain. In the field of intelligentization, it incubated companies such as Xiandou Intelligent, which focuses on intelligent cockpits, and Haomo Intelligent Mobility (now independent), which focuses on autonomous driving.</p><p>While supporting secondary suppliers, GAC Group is also researching its own batteries and developing the ADiGO autonomous driving system in terms of intelligence.</p><p>Traditional automakers that are less confident have chosen to join forces with internet companies, such as Seres and Changan, which have chosen to cooperate with Huawei.</p><p>Although this kind of cooperation may cause automakers to \"lose their souls\" to some extent, combining the resource advantages of traditional automakers in the supply chain and the manufacturing experience accumulated over many years, as well as the autonomous driving technology that internet companies have kept under wraps, can at least ensure their survival.</p><p><b>However, if we compare horizontally, traditional automakers with weaker strength still have a chance to survive by selling their souls, while the weaker \"emerging\" automakers may only face one fate - death.</b></p><p>Ending</p><p>Killed by the times<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NOK\">Nokia</a>As CEO Olila famously said, \"We didn't do anything wrong, but for some reason, we lost.\"</p><p>It is often said that today's new energy vehicles are like smartphones of yesteryear, and having learned from past experiences, no automaker wants to become...<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/0HAF.UK\">Nokia</a>。</p><p>However, even if they lost, they might already know why they lost.</p><p>But regardless of the outcome, traditional automakers are doing everything they can to survive.</p><p></body></html></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> source:<a 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2014-2015年,就在同时期,李书福带着吉利启动了 “蓝色吉利行动计划”,北汽新能源则提出了 “卫蓝事业计划 2.0”。吉利2015年推出纯电车帝豪EV后,当年销量达到2.7万辆,2016年销量高达4.9万辆,却没有乘胜追击,继续专注于燃油车市场;此外,从品牌战略上来说,光是吉利旗下做新能源的就又是帝豪、又是几何,内部打架,造成了资源内耗。从本质上来说,传统车企普遍没有理解“快”的本质——它不在于动身早,而在于路线迭代快,在于敢下血本,在于不撞南墙不回头的魄力。他们无法做到“快”的原因也不难理解,传统车企们面临着一个如今已几乎人人皆知的“创新窘境”——既要继续占据传统燃油车市场,又要快速切入到新能源车市场,同时还要以最小的成本试错。船大难掉头,“路径依赖”在解释这个问题上,是一个太过笼统的词,它的背后是赤裸裸的经济账。李斌说的“没有200亿造不出新能源车”并非虚言,时至今日,“蔚小理”三家的半年报显示,他们仍在以少则亏6亿多则亏50亿的节奏持续烧钱。而从燃油车世界打拼出来的传统车企,基因里带着“稳定”的基因,显然无法直接放弃自己的“现金牛”业务,不管不顾地投入新能源世界,他们也没有那么多资金可供挥霍。于是他们选择了内部小幅试错的方式,但最终结果是五花八门的乱——有的沉迷油改电、有的沉迷B端市场、有的割舍不掉老身份,总之没有成功。上汽通用总经理曾经这样描述自家的新能源用户:“个人买家只有十几万,剩下的都卖给B端出行市场了。”销量上新势力们取得胜利自不必说,而传统车企的标志性败局则是著名的“股价”事件——2020年6月10日,特斯拉的市值首次超越日系传统车品牌丰田,成为全球市值最高的车企。虽然距离起步已过去5年,但传统车企那一刻才终于意识到——世界已经变了。回头看,传统车企第一回合的输,主要输在了慢,慢的背后则是犹豫不定。第二战:新势力输如果说最开始在成本上的踟蹰与犹疑主要来自对于新能源前景判断的不确定,那么在2020年6月的那一刻起,传统车企已经明白——这条路不得不走。新能源不再是他们眼中在燃油车领域毫无成就的品牌才会去做的事,新能源甚至已经不是未来,而是现在。然而,摆在眼前的残酷现实是,输掉战争只要一个理由,想赢得战争却需要多方借力。第一力,是破旧迎新——打造一个新的品牌。大号转型困难,那就练小号。市面上出现很多看起来新实际上却背靠传统车企的品牌——比如吉利的极氪、广汽的埃安、东风的岚图、长安的阿维塔、长城的沙龙。实力强一些的自己另起炉灶,实力稍弱的则选择与科技大厂联手,共同打造新的品牌。当然,如今只是一个新的品牌已经又不够,如广汽埃安在刚刚过去的9月15日发布了其高端品牌Hyper昊铂,售价10万元以下的哪吒也开始进军高端轿跑。一个题外话是,在传统车企开始塑造新的品牌时,新势力则开始努力建厂,作为对手的双方分别走上了对方的老路,人设互换,纷纷成为了自己曾经最讨厌的样子。但这或许就是不可阻挡的产业规律——最终是取长补短,发起全面战争。第二力,是资本。造车就要烧钱,是传统车企此前踌躇的重要原因之一,而融资顺利也正是新势力们突飞猛进的底气。现在,传统车企也开始吸金了。近几个月来,包括埃安、智己、阿维塔、岚图在内的多个新能源品牌先后宣布了融资和预增资的相关消息。以极氪为例,去年8月,极氪获得了英特尔资本、宁德时代、哔哩哔哩、鸿商集团和博裕投资五家公司的战略投资,总额为5亿美元,占极氪股比约为 5.6%,因此其估值已经接近 100 亿美元(约合 697 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