π»ππ When chips fail, Nvidia prevails: DeepSeekβs setback cements the AI leaderβs dominance π»ππ
$NVIDIA(NVDA)$ $Advanced Micro Devices(AMD)$π¨π³ DeepSeekβs R2 delay exposes Chinaβs AI hardware limits π¨π³
Iβm watching the DeepSeek news closely. Their highly anticipated R2 model has been delayed after persistent training failures on Huaweiβs Ascend chips. Engineers on site couldnβt resolve the issues, forcing DeepSeek to train entirely on Nvidiaβs H20 chips, with Ascend relegated to inference only. Thatβs not just a technical snag; itβs a clear statement on the current hierarchy of AI compute.
Nvidiaβs training dominance leaves $AMD on the sidelines in China
DeepSeek, dubbed the βPinduoduo of AIβ for delivering high-performance models at a fraction of competitor costs, has been shaking the market since R1. But the R2 hiccup proves that when it comes to high-end AI training, Nvidia remains the only game in town. Even $AMDβs impressive MI300 series, which is gaining traction in Western markets, hasnβt yet established a foothold in China; it is subject to the same export-control oversight that tracks every imported chip.
Chinaβs chip self-reliance clock just got pushed back
For Beijing, the endgame is clear: build domestic compute power through Ascend, Biren, and other homegrown architectures to escape reliance on US hardware. But after this public stumble, the timeline looks longer than expected. In the meantime, Nvidiaβs hardware-software ecosystem, anchored by CUDA, keeps it firmly in the lead. This software moat is just as important as the silicon itself; even if hardware parity arrives, the development environment wonβt be easy to replicate.
Geopolitics still favours Nvidiaβs moat
From a geopolitical lens, the Chinese governmentβs tech-self-sufficiency push hit turbulence. Ironically, despite national security warnings about Nvidiaβs H20, it still got the nod because the performance gap is real. Until domestic chips can train at scale without compromises, Nvidia remains indispensable to Chinaβs AI ambitions.
Technical structure supports the bullish thesis
On the charts, $NVDAβs 4H is consolidating above the mid-Keltner band and 21 EMA after a powerful Julyβearly August rally. The upper Bollinger band flattens near 185, hinting at short-term digestion, while deeper trend support sits at the 55 EMA around 176. A clean reclaim of 183β184 could open the door to 185.50β187; losing 179.50 risks probing that 176 zone.
Traders: this is where fundamentals and technicals converge
For me, this is fundamentals and technicals aligning: DeepSeekβs pivot back to Nvidia is a bullish catalyst layered on top of an already strong setup. $AMD has a role globally, but in China, Nvidiaβs lead is unchallenged for now; the domestic catch-up clock just got extended.
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- QueengirlypopsΒ·08-15TOPNvidiaβs position looks rock solid right now. The fact that Ascend had to step aside for training is telling, and CUDAβs still the ace up their sleeve. If we clear that 183β184 zone, I see a fast move toward your 185.50β187 target.2Report
- Kiwi TigressΒ·08-15TOPIβm with you on Nvidia holding the lead here. DeepSeek falling back to the H20 shows how wide the gap still is, and I think that extends the bullish window for longer than most expect. The 183β184 level you flagged feels like the trigger for the next breakout2Report
- Cool Cat WinstonΒ·08-15TOPagree the DeepSeek delay really highlights how Nvidiaβs moat is more than just hardware. CUDAβs ecosystem makes switching tough and thatβs something $AMD hasnβt cracked in China. The technical setup you outlined makes the 183β184 reclaim a key watch for me.6Report
- Hen SoloΒ·08-15TOPYour geopolitical angle is spot on. Chinaβs still reliant on Nvidia for serious AI workloads despite policy pressure, and thatβs not changing quickly. The upper Bollinger near 185 you noted could be the next test before we see another strong leg higher.5Report
- Tui JudeΒ·08-15TOPThe point about domestic chip ambitions getting pushed back resonates. Even with $AMDβs MI300 showing promise, Nvidiaβs integration in AI pipelines is on another level. I like the 176 support you mentioned as a spot where buyers could reload if momentum stalls.4Report
- KevinKellyΒ·08-14TOPIncredible insights! Keep it coming! [Wow]1Report
- JimmyHuaΒ·08-14Great article6Report
