Have you ever heard of the great paradox in the stock market? - Chasing Highs or Hunting Bottoms?

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In the midst of a two-week rebound in the stock market, numerous stocks have soared to historic highs, exemplified by $Microsoft(MSFT)$ reaching $373.13, $Wal-Mart(WMT)$ at $169.94, and $Broadcom(AVGO)$ breaking records at $981.75.

Whether you're a novice investor or a seasoned player in the market, a significant number of individual investors tend to favor buying stocks that have experienced a substantial pullback from their peak. This preference stems from the perception that seemingly cheaper stocks are safer or are closer to historical lows.

Many individuals express reluctance to invest in stocks that are currently reaching new price highs.

However, have you ever heard of the Great Paradox?

It is one of the great paradoxes of the stock market that what seems too high usually goes higher and what seems too low usually goes lower.

Speaking of "new highs," O'Neil introduces the concept of the "Great Paradox."

In O'Neil's framework, if a stock breaks out from a valid price adjustment pattern, accompanied by increased trading volume and approaches or achieves a new price high, it might actually signal a buying opportunity.

What's your take on this paradox? Do you prefer bottom-fishing or chasing highs?

Let's spill the tea on your investment strategies!🌈✨

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  • koolgal
    ·2023-11-17
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    🌟🌟🌟Chasing Highs or Hunting The Bottoms imply knowing when the stocks will hit their all time highs or when they will hit their all time lows.   Nobody, not even the experts can predict with any degree of accuracy unless perhaps if they have a crystal ball.

    Perhaps a better way would be to dollar cost average through Tiger's awesome Auto Invest and that way, over time it will allow the magic of compounding to happen.  It takes away the emotion and angst of when to buy or sell a stock and allow me to sleep easily at night. 

    Investing is after all  a marathon, not a sprint!

    @MillionaireTiger  @TigerStars  @TigerClub  @Tiger_SG  

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    • koolgalReplying toPhoenixBee
      I will include you in my next post.
      2023-11-18
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    • PhoenixBeeReplying tokoolgal
      Missed out me 😞
      2023-11-17
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    • koolgalReplying toHappy Bear
      Happy weekend 🏖️🏖️🏖️
      2023-11-17
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  • LMSunshine
    ·2023-11-17
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    Definitely bottom🎣 for me as I 💜 to buy low and sell high❣️But my buddy @Ah_Meng will say low can go lower🙁 and it happens quite often but I can’t resist a good bargain. Maybe i just need more luck like my buddy @rL says🤷🏻‍♀️❓What do my other buddies think❓ @SR050321 @CYKuan @BenjiFuji @amroui @melson @Asphen @SirBahamut @pekss @Shyon @CL_Wong @Ericdao @StickyRice @StarLuck @Omega88 @Yonhuat @Kerrisdale @deal2deal @kungpao @xXxZealandxXx
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    • BenjiFuji
      [Great][Great][Great]
      2023-11-19
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    • Ah_Meng
      Don’t make it a habit… otherwise market will run before you know it
      2023-11-18
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    • Omega88
      [Like] Rocket 🚀 to the moon!
      2023-11-17
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  • icycrystal
    ·2023-11-16
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    for me I think I would prefer bottom fishing because purchase at a lower  [USD] [USD] [USD] and also because am not rich like Uncle Buffett or Auntie Cathy or the Charismatic One where they have tons of  [USD] [USD] [USD] to chase highs  [Chuckle] [Chuckle] [Chuckle] both have its risk as of its low can go lower and if it's high may dive down drastically... have the experience before  [Cry] [Cry] [Cry] know what it's like  [Cry] [Cry] [Cry] therefore, need to control emotions and need to remind. myself this very important point - to go for good and established companies with proven track records and have survived through and through (solid rock foundation) [smile] [smile] [smile]

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    • icycrystalReplying tokoolgal
      [Grin] [Grin] [Grin] [Sly] [Sly] [Sly] [Happy] [Happy] [Happy]
      2023-11-17
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    • koolgalReplying toicycrystal
      You need to rest and weekend is almost here!
      2023-11-17
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    • icycrystalReplying tokoolgal
      [Happy] [Happy] [Happy] I just realised I must be ZZZzzz and in the middle of ZZZzzz I've created or rather turned words around "solid rock foundation" [Happy] [Happy] [Happy] ain't it "rock solid foundation" [Thinking] [Thinking] [Thinking] I think am still ZZZzzz [Happy] [Happy] [Happy]
      2023-11-17
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  • SR050321
    ·2023-11-17
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    Great paradox - my take 

    Speaking of "new highs," O'Neil introduces the concept of the "Great Paradox."

    In O'Neil's framework, if a stock breaks out from a valid price adjustment pattern, accompanied by increased trading volume and approaches or achieves a new price high, it might actually signal a buying opportunity.

    my take (personal view) : It could be right if accompanied by other good method. 

    When i am buying any companies to diversify, it always failed me because once the price dropped it could not come back, why ? because not many demand on that stock, although the company is still stable, so i would rather buy the famous companies when it drops and started to move up. All those famous companies now are at the higher level. I wish i can buy more when at the bottom, but we never know where the bottom. Can catch some and diversify is already good enough for me. 

    It is difficult to time the market, when i think it will goes down again to buy back, it didn't happen. So now many famous companies i have not buy back again, waiting for pull back. So how to decide when to buy? If i think the price is good enough to reenter/add i will. I may not catch the bottom, i always do this for $Berkshire Hathaway(BRK.B)$  $Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ $Meta Platforms, Inc.(META)$ these 3 still giving me green. 

    Not investment advice, wish you the best 🙏

    @MillionaireTiger 

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    • b1uesky
      thk for sharing
      2023-11-29
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    • BruceBryant

      Bears may have short term opportunities

      2023-11-17
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    • WayneEvans

      No major catalyst til Tuesday ! Either drifts or tanks until then !

      2023-11-17
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  • Universe宇宙
    ·2023-11-16
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    • icycrystal
      [Like] [ShakeHands]
      2023-11-16
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  • Cory2
    ·2023-11-17
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    I do a little of both depending on my technical and fundamental analysis. $NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ was still quite a high entry point when I bought it, but I was convinced with the AI “arms race”, and Big Tech sector boom, given it’s strengths as a market leader and provider of quality high end (high profit) chips, I couldn’t resist. I also think $NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ is ahead in R&D with so many companies buying the company’s chips for their tech needs (now and in the future), it’s a win-win. Plus I made the decision based on my own analysis without listening to too much hype noise.
    Bottom fishing or chasing lows is a little time consuming for me and I don’t like the great paradox risk that it can and usually goes lower (for me that is), although I do buy penny stocks in valued sectors with some future ling-term potential. If they fail, I havent lost too much then. I bought a $Aurora Cannabis Inc(ACB)$ and another Cannabis penny stock recently due to it’s under $5 entry price.
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  • Mrzorro
    ·2023-11-16
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    bottom fishing for me....but  there is always more lower price or the price of the stock never rebound again [LOL] That's why I always in deep red sea [Facepalm] [Spurting]
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  • WonderElephant
    ·2023-11-16
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    Bottom fishing for me! When it’s at all time high, there is a tendency for the stock to be overbought and investors wanting to profit-take. Then I would left catching falling knives so it’s a risk I wouldn’t want to take. However, having said that, companies with strong fundamentals like $Microsoft(MSFT)$ and $Wal-Mart(WMT)$ and $Broadcom(AVGO)$ are generally safer stocks and can be held for longer time periods, so there’s less risk.
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  • TimothyX
    ·2023-11-16
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    股市的一大悖論是,看起來太高的通常會走高,看起來太低的通常會走低。
    談到“新高”,奧尼爾引入了“大悖論”的概念。


    在奧尼爾的框架中,如果一隻股票突破了有效的價格調整模式,伴隨着交易量的增加,接近或達到新的價格高點,它實際上可能是一個買入機會的信號。
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  • Kok
    ·2023-11-16
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    Yes. Stocks that hit ATH can definitely go higher. But make sure you know when to get out cos they will come down, their valuations will revert to the mean one day. Buying on the cheap is a much better long term plan for great companies
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  • highhand
    ·2023-11-16
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    check stock fair value. if below fair value, even stocks on an uptrend can be bought, just wait for pullback till support level to buy.
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  • BenjiFuji
    ·2023-11-19
    The great paradox is not a paradox.
    Buying low can get lower.
    Buying high can get lower.
    Likewise, buying low can get higher.
    And buying high can get higher.
    So there are 4 scenarios.
    So how?


    The key is to correctly choose the right company or strategy, and buy when the price is right.


    Through value investing, price is just the offer, but the intrinsic value is what matters. Buying at a safe discount to intrinsic value matters most.


    This is followed by buying an excellent company at fair value. And finally, through DCA of index.


    What do you think?
    @Bonta @daz88888888 @LMSunshine @melson @GoodLife99 @SirBahamut
    [Grin]
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  • Ah_Meng
    ·2023-11-18
    I have heard the paradox and in fact followed the strategy of chasing highs and see how it works.
    The company i was following was Amazon and that must have been at least 6-8 years back when it broke a new 52 weeks high. Indeed, I was told by an analyst to buy in as this signals the beginning of a new uptrend. At that time, Amazon was considered expensive by many while it had also not turned a profit. The analyst I followed mentioned that Amazon could turn profitable at anytime of its choosing. It was just that it had chosen growth. I was intrigued by that idea but chasing after a 52 weeks high is just not in my DNA! I gave the idea a pass.
    Fast forward to many years later, Amazon, as we all know, had continued to make many more new 52 weeks highs. Amazon also decided to report profits. It is as simple as that! I saw the profit made by that analyst on Amazon, at least a 8-bagger or 800%!
    Long story short, never dismiss an idea, no matter how silly it might sound at that time.
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  • ECLC
    ·2023-11-18
    Have tried bottom-fishing(mostly) and chasing highs with mixed results. It is hard to react fast enough in uncertain volatile times; be mindful to stay out of FOMO.
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  • 起时我很早就思考过这个悖论,这个理论的底层逻辑是,股票如果长期在一个大的箱体区间内运动,尤其是具有价格天花板时,说明公司的基本面逻辑没有什么变化,抛开大牛市的原因:一旦突破了最高点,那就意味着市场已经意识到这家公司的基本面逻辑发生了变化,某个点发生了质变。
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  • xXxZealandxXx
    ·2023-11-19
    Kia ora Tigers,

    Chasing bottoms creates new high these days heheh [Tongue] stock continues to surprise us indeed... I'm sitting on the sidelines till next year before I shopping for bargins... Currently recovery from this " EV downfall - yip i said it " [smile]

    Cheers @MillionaireTiger

    Thanks for tags @icycrystal @LMSunshine [Love] [Bless]

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  • Success88
    ·2023-11-17
    Fishing higher high need to do a lot of homework and study the company and chart. Without good project or product need to be careful
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  • WanEH
    ·2023-11-17
    其实有时会这样,有时只是一个假突破。高位进场就只能住总统套房了
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  • AliceSam
    ·2023-11-16
    不太清楚这个理论,哈哈😛
    进来学习一下📑
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  • nomadic_m
    ·2023-11-17
    I love a good bargain. it gives me a rush of adrenaline while hunting, releases dopamine when I found one [Cool]
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