Will the Market Crash in 2023? Analysts's Forecast are...

Most Wall Street banks expect the US economy to fall into recession sometime in 2023. They see more room for downward revisions to corporate earnings expectations in 2023. These downgrades as implying greater volatility for the stock market in early 2023.

Why Banks Think There Will be a Market Crash?

1. Morgan Stanley strategist Michael Wilson said the looming earnings recession "could itself be similar to what happened in 2008/2009.

This could trigger a new stock market low that is "much worse than most investors expect.
"Our advice is not to assume that the market has priced in such an outcome until it actually happens. While inflation has now begun to fall from historic highs, recent signs of weakness in the U.S. economy are worrisome."

But Michael noted that there are no signs of systemic financial risk or distress in the housing market are foreseen, and the stock market is not expected to fall 50% as it did in 2008.

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Morgan Stanley team forecasts that:

The $S&P 500(.SPX)$ could fall to 3,000 next year, which means this index will fall another 22% from last Friday's close.

2. Societe Generale predicted that the US to fall into recession in the first quarter of 2024.

We are bearish on the 2023 move, but not as bearish as we were in 2022. With the Fed nearing the end of its current rate hike cycle, returns should be much better in 2023.
Under our 'hard soft-landing' scenario assumptions, the index's earnings per share growth rate will pick up to 0% in 2023.

The S&P 500 is expected to reach 3,800 points by the end of 2023.

We expect corporate earnings growth to be negative in the first half of 2023; the Fed's policy stance to shift in June 2023; and

3. UBS expects to expect the US to fall into recession in the second quarter - fourth quarter of 2023.

The S&P 500 will reach 3,900 by the end of 2023, and the index is expected to earn $198 per share in 2023.

The situation in 2023 is essentially a 'race' between a moderating inflation and financial environment and an impending shock to economic growth + corporate earnings.

History suggests that economic growth and corporate earnings will continue to deteriorate until the financial environment is substantially eased and the market enters a trough."

4. CFRA chief investment strategist Sam Stovall said we're heading into a recession, but next year will be split in half.

Stocks are likely to improve in the second half. The S&P 500 is expected to return to this year's October lows in the first half of 2023.

However, the recent cooling of inflation provides optimistic signals.

Since 1950, the S&P 500 has averaged a 13% total return in the 12 months following 13 major inflationary highs, said Jim Paulsen, chief investment strategist at Leuthold Group.

In the 10 cases where the index rose after a big spike in inflation, the S&P 500 also had an average total return of 22% in the following year, the firm's data show.

Do you think market will crash or not in 2023?

Is the investing logic in 2023 similar to that of 2022?

What's your target price for SPX. in 2023?

Share your thoughts in the comment section and win tiger coins~

# Bear vs. Bull: Expectations in H2 2023

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  • onlyYou
    ·2022-12-21
    When the interest rate yield curve inverts and longer-dated maturing bonds have lower yields than short-term bonds, the U.S. is at a heightened probability of entering a recession over the next six to 18 months. Recently, the magnitude of inversion between the two-year Treasury bond yield and 10-year Treasury bond yield widened to its largest difference in 40 years. That's a telltale warning that a recession could be brewing. Just keep in mind that while a yield-curve inversion has preceded every U.S. recession since World War II, a recession hasn't followed every yield-curve inversion.


    If a recession does materialize in the U.S. in 2023, you can be all but certain that corporate earnings are likely to fall. Wall Street analysts have yet to fully price in the impact of aggressive Fed rate hikes. @Tiger_chat
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  • Shop
    ·2022-12-21
    In 2023, I am going to tap into defensive sectors, such as consumer staples and health care, and value stocks, which typically offer generous dividends, to offset high inflation. I will also seek to earn more “predictable returns from income strategies” against the uncertain economic backdrop, while high market volatility can also offer a means of generating income, Investors will enter 2023 with many questions about the strength and purpose of the political and financial institutions that support global markets,
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  • LMSunshine
    ·2022-12-21
    I think that market will dip lower in 2023 but it may not necessarily crash depending on whether there’s a mild or moderate recession. Investing logic stays the same for me regardless of situations➡️Monitor 🗞 and Investors’ POV closely, research then react accordingly without being FOMO or greedy🤓 Many analysts have given their SPX price targets for 2023 ranging from 3900-4500. I’m sharing 1 I found from AI prediction which is 4200+ (see photo)🥰 Thanks loads @Tiger_chat for this important discussion topic❣️Share your comments on post to win coins friends❣️
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    • LMSunshineReplying tob1uesky
      Rem to comment on the tiger chat post for coins
      2022-12-21
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    • b1uesky
      thk for sharing
      2022-12-21
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    • melsonReplying toLMSunshine
      merci, commented
      2022-12-21
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  • Shyon
    ·2022-12-21
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    I don't think the market will crash in 2023, at least the YTD return in 2023 won't be worse than 2022. Another reason is when everyone is aware of the crash, it won't happen in a harsh way. So the risk is at a lower side. The investment logic maybe can be slightly more aggressive than 2022 especially starting in second half of 2023. The S&P target will be at least 10% higher based on today closing.
    Good luck all the investors!
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  • koolgal
    ·2022-12-22

    🌟🌟🌟Will the market crash in 2023? I believe it won't because of the following reasons:

    1. Inflation is coming down from its all time high and decelerate in 2023 due to rising interest rates and  Hawkish Feds. 

    2. Volatility is coming down.  A good indicator is the volatility index VIX.    VIX is coming down from a high of 38 to 20 currently. 

    3. S&P500 earnings in 2023 are projected to move sideways rather than down. 

    4. Consumer spending is still up not falling.  A stock market crash normally comes with falling consumer spending. 

    5.  Labour markets are still tight.  In a stock market crash, high unemployment is prevalent. 

    6.  China's change of Covid policies will result in better economic returns in 2023.

    2022 has been a year where there was everything was down and a stock market crash could happen but it didn't.  2023 will be a much better year and the markets will resume its upward trend by mid 2023.  I predict that SPX will rise to 4500 in 2023.  

    @Tiger_chat  




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    • koolgalReplying toHelenJanet
      My pleasure 😍😍😍
      2022-12-23
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    • HelenJanet
      Thanks for sharing your insight. 👍👍
      2022-12-23
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    • koolgalReplying toocean_wave
      Thanks
      2022-12-22
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  • Tiger_comments
    ·2022-12-26
    Thank you for commenting on my post. Your coins have been sent to your account~ Don't forget to check your tiger coins💖@JL28168 @MHh @Kaixiang @Brocco @AlfonsoDex @koolgal @RDPD富爸穷爸 @Shyon @Ericdao @Yonhuat @CL Wong @Aqa @LMSunshine @melson @deal2deal @Shop @Frisbee @onlyYou @nickname168 @AhGong @luv2trade @hd87 @Xian789 @RT2022 @Derrick3388 @AliceSam @Boo2020 @SteadyDoesIt
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    • Xian789
      thanks @Tiger_chat 🥳🙏
      2022-12-28
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    • melson
      merci beaucoup 🥂✨
      2022-12-27
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    • Kaixiang
      Thanks Tiger! [Grin]
      2022-12-26
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  • Kaixiang
    ·2022-12-22
    First half of 2023 would be a challenging period for investors as interest rates are lilely to be sustained at a high level, putting pressure on valuation and earnngs. Having more defensive stocks such as consumer staples, healthcare can cushion a market’s decline as they offer stable dividends.
    However, the decline may not be long term as the impact of high interest rate is already being reflected in the economy as we see more retrenchment, hire freeze, new/resale housing market slowdown (though it may get magnified in 1st half of 2023). One may see Fed reversing course in second half of 2023 as inflation continues to cool and Fed attempting a “not so hard landing”. When that happens, investing strategy may change as growth may come into emphasis and tech will re-emerge as the new darling.
    My guess is that SPX may end 2023 around 4200.
    Let me know your thoughts on 2023 outlook. [Grin] may all tiger friends ride out this tough times! [Victory]
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    • HelenJanetReplying toKaixiang
      Thanks for sharing your insight 👍👍
      2022-12-23
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    • SPOT_ONReplying toKaixiang
      [ShakeHands] [ShakeHands] [ShakeHands] [Salute]
      2022-12-23
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    • melsonReplying toKaixiang
      hope you are right
      2022-12-23
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  • MHh
    ·2022-12-23
    Dont think market will crash but the effects of rate hikes will be seen. Expecting a short recession and once inflation stabilise and the Fed ease rate hikes, the market should rebound in 2nd half of 2023 based on the sentiment too. Gradually just average down or buy the good stocks and wait it out! I believe it wont be a long wait. Market already down for a year, wont be too long before the rebound
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  • Frisbee
    ·2022-12-21
    I expect stock markets could go down further next year and things could get tricky. Some stocks will fail to deliver and disappoint.In an economy where bad news is good news, and good news is bad news, Americans’ ability to power through the Fed’s rate hikes and record-high inflation may paradoxically hurt them down the line. Powell’s promised pain is going to come — it’s just a question of when. The S&P 500 is set to end 2022 with negative returns. It is exceedingly rare that the S&P 500 experiences consecutive negative years. This is especially true in the modern era. The last time it recorded back to back years of negative returns was 2000-2002, in the aftermath of the Dotcom crash.I am forecasting an S&P 500 price target of 3,202 by the end of the 2023.
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  • nickname168
    ·2022-12-21
    Quite a few indicators would suggest that, while the Dow Jones, S&P 500, and Nasdaq all entered respective bear markets, the ultimate low has yet to be reached.For instance, two valuation-based indicators portend additional downside in the S&P 500. The S&P (P/E) ratio (also known as CAPE ratio) has bottomed numerous times around a value of 22 during stock market corrections and bear markets over the past quarter of a century. The S&P Shiller P/E is currently at 29, and it didn't come anywhere close to 22 during the 2022 bear market.


    Likewise, the forward P/E ratio of the S&P 500 is currently 17.3. There hasn't been a sizable correction, crash, or bear market since the beginning of 1999 that found its bottom at a forward P/E ratio of higher than 14. In short, valuation indicators would imply that equities are still pricey and have room to fall.

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  • deal2deal
    ·2022-12-21
    Three things have killed the stock market in 2022: hot inflation, which has led to big rate hikes, which has slowed the economy.


    Those same three things will reverse course in 2023. And as they do, stocks will reverse course, too, and go from crashing to soaring.
    Inflation will cool, leading to smaller rate hikes and maybe even rate cuts, which will juice the economy. I expect he S&P 500 index to be at 4200 levels at the end of 2023
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  • AhGong
    ·2022-12-21
    The well-known issue with the Fed is that it's a reactive, data-driven institution rather than one that proactively adjusts monetary policy. Since the data the Fed utilizes is backward-looking, there's a tendency to overshoot to the upside and downside when it comes to rate hikes and reductions. In other words, we'll probably be looking back in hindsight at some point in the not-too-distant future and realize the Fed was too aggressive with its rate hikes over too short a period. If the nation's central bank holds true to its word of keeping rates elevated for much (if not all) of 2023, it wouldn't be a surprise to see corporate earnings take a sizable hit. @deal2deal @Shop @onlyYou

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  • StickyRice
    ·2023-01-01
    Despite the downturn in stocks during 2022, the underlying U.S. economy remains strong and stable. While real GDP growth for 2023 might be flat, the nominal growth will match the realized inflation rate for the year. I expect the average inflation rate for 2023 to be about 5%, ending the year near or below 4%. Looking ahead to 2023, many people seem to be anticipating another big move. The bulls are looking for a "V" bottom and move back toward the highs. After all, since 2009, buying the dip has always been the right strategy. Every correction was an opportunity to make money on the inevitable quick rebound.
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  • RDPD富爸穷爸
    ·2022-12-21
    The market will crash if there's another black swan event in 2023. Otherwise I expect SPX to test 3500 level and bound back to end the year higher next year so let's see 😉
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    • RDPD富爸穷爸Replying toMHh
      😉👍
      2022-12-23
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    • MHhReplying toRDPD富爸穷爸
      Because we invest for the longer term and only buy good companies. No speculation[LOL]
      2022-12-23
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    • RDPD富爸穷爸Replying toMHh
      My idea is simply to DCA to take advantage of cheaper price even if I'm wrong 😉
      2022-12-23
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  • luv2trade
    ·2022-12-21
    Conditions are set for a major fall in stock markets worldwide before late 2022, but it's possible things could barely hang on until 2023. Many different sources say the US Federal Reserve will try to prevent a “crash”, but a less severe deep recession is very likely. Since China's economy is now more fragile than it has been in the last decade, a major recession in China in the same quarter as one in the US will affect many countries. @nickname168 @Frisbee @onlyYou @AhGong
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  • Boo2020
    ·2022-12-26
    if federal reserve continue to increase interest rate, it will crash the market. a lot of companies are exercising prudence on budget, some companies can't even meet the usual sales target so they have to let go employees to reduce expense so the report will look decent....when the unemployment rate goes up, we will know it....
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  • Brocco
    ·2022-12-22
    Dont think so~ inflation is high thats a fact. But at the same time policy makers are all trying to keep it under control. It may not turn bullish next year and volality still remains but to just crash it just seems unlikely. Looking forward to china opening up as well.
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  • melson
    ·2022-12-21
    i wrote a post on 13/12 predicting spx will fall to 3500. started to fall from 4100 on 13/12 and now 3800s. mr market is not happy that fed will keep rates high until 2024.
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  • hd87
    ·2022-12-21
    I don't think the market will crash drastically in 2023. The investing in 2023 will be different from 2022 unless the investor performs DCA for fundamental great company while having excess liquidity. SPX in 2023 will be higher than this year 2022.
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  • Yonhuat
    ·2022-12-21
    For every 5% drop in S&P , you pick up 5 shares of SPY . can’t pick a bottom but eventually the market will recover.
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