10Y Treasury yield surged! Rate cut in mid-year?

Affected by lower rate cut expectations, 10Y Treasury yield surpassed 4% on Wednesday.

In December, US retail sales rose by 0.6% compared to the previous month, exceeding estimates of 0.4% and doubling the November increase of 0.3%.

The comprehensive data indicates robust demand of consumption during the holiday season. Many traders have further retreated from betting on rate cut in March.

Analyst from BlackRock commented, "I believe the current data is not sufficient to give the Fed confidence to cut rates in the short term. The rate cut may occur later in the year than in March."

However, the surge also means higher premium of $iShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF(TLT)$ put options.

Would you sell put of TLT during the crash?

How do you view the rate cut? In March or later?

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# 10Y Treasury Yield Surge! Time to Sell Put of TLT?

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  • icycrystal
    ·01-18
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    i guess too early to tell, Fed probably looking at data and deciding if they should cut, pause... I'll be doing the wait and see approach till things are certain...

    @DiAngel @LMSunshine @koolgal @GoodLife99 @Universe宇宙 @rL @xXxZealandxXx @Shyon @Aqa

    Would you sell put of TLT during the crash?


    How do you view the rate cut? In March or later?


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    • Universe宇宙
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      01-19
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    • Shyon
      Thanks for sharing hehe
      01-19
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  • MHh
    ·01-18
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    When will rate cut be is anybody’s guess. The data keeps fluctuating..will prefer to continuously average down on good stocks because eventually the rate cut will come. I dont like bonds haha… so no.. wont try to get it whether as a stock or option
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  • DiAngel
    ·01-18
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    I not an option person. Thus, I will not sell put on TLT.


    Nobody has a crystal ball to determine when the rate cut will happen. Maybe the slogan “sell in may and go away, but remember come back in september” might come true. Ie rate cut in May. 😇🤭😂🙏


    Anyway, it will happen eventually. Just be patient! 🧘‍♀️🧘‍♀️🧘‍♀️


    I am working very high towards my SG dividends KPI then the rate cut. 🤫🫣🤭 Today Tbill is very disappointing 🥺😢😭

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    • icycrystalReplying toDiAngel
      lol... working hard and high... [Chuckle] [Chuckle] [Chuckle] cheers mate [Like] [Like] [Like]
      01-19
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    • DiAngel
      Hard and not high.. 🤦‍♀️😓… not under the influence of alcohol 🍾🥂🍺🥃🍸🍹🍷 while writing this post 😂
      01-18
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  • Shyon
    ·01-19
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    Have you pay attention to treasury note? Late last year, investors heaved a sigh of relief. U.S. Treasury yields finally began to decline after a long rally. The yield on the benchmark 10-Year U.S.Treasury Note slid from 5% to below 4%, igniting a ferocious year-end rally in stocks.

    With the assumption that Fed Funds rate likely to fall in 2024, it was only natural that Treasury yields would lead the way. In mid-December, the yield on the 10-year note fell below its 200-day moving average (red) for the first time in six months.

    Now, the trend has paused, as the 10-year yield has climbed to a one-month high of 4.11%. The yield also climbed back above its 200-day moving average on Wednesday.

    While a rise in yields is beneficial to those who live off of interest generated by short-duration fixed income instruments, it's bad news for long-duration bondholders.

    It could be bad news for stocks as well. The S&P 500 is trading just below its all-time highs. A failure to break out to new highs, exacerbated by a rise in bond yields, could help to create a double-top pattern on the weekly chart of the S&P 500 (shaded yellow). 

    For such, I am bearish with the US market in near term $Semiconductor Bull 3X Shares(SOXL)$  $SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust(SPY)$  . Same case to Chinese and Hong Kong market for stocks like $Alibaba(BABA)$  $XPeng Inc.(XPEV)$  $NIO Inc.(NIO)$  .

    How do you think? 

    @TigerStars  @CaptainTiger  @MillionaireTiger  @TigerPicks  @Tiger_comments  @TigerSG  @TigerClub  

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    • ShyonReplying toDrewStrong
      Thx for your comments here, agree with you!
      01-26
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    • DrewStrong
      Agree! It's a double-top danger!
      01-25
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    • Shyon
      Come and join guys 😀😀😀
      01-19
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  • highhand
    ·01-18
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    can sell puts, but buy tlt better. guarantee go up. if not enough cash, can use options to do a bullish synthetic to "buy" tlt.
    sell a put option, and buy a call at same strike, when you see a bullish uptrend signal.
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  • I would sell a OTM put option on TLT for sure...If I wasn't selling a put on NEM instead. I think it's basically the same bet, but NEM has some other bullish catalysts that make this recent pullback very enticing as an investor.
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  • @Universe宇宙

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    @nomadic m

    @Kok

    @highhand

    @Captain Ashford

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    @DiAngel

    @icycrystal

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    @Shyon

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  • TimothyX
    ·01-25
    數據一直在波動..我更喜歡持續平均下跌好股票,因爲最終降息會到來。我dont喜歡債券哈哈…所以不喜歡..不會試圖得到它無論是作爲股票或期權
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  • Kok
    ·01-19
    I would still sell put options of $iShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF(TLT)$ but it makes sense to lower the strike price now. Recovery is seldom in a straight line, expect ups n downs
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  • StickyRice
    ·01-19




    December inflation data was Thursday's highlight. The headline Consumer Price Index increased by 0.3% last month, a tenth of a point more than expected. The core CPI, which excludes food and energy components, also rose 0.3% in December. That stretched their year-over-year increases to 3.4% and 3.9%, respectively, both faster than in the 12 months through November.
    But the longer-term trend is unchanged, still supporting the overall disinflation, Federal Reserve-pivot theme that investors have been discussing for a while now.
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  • nomadic_m
    ·01-19
    not trading options. a long way to go to average down on $iShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF(TLT)$. patience is a virtue. if anyone is in the same boat, yell out in solidarity ✊
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  • TimothyX
    ·01-18
    綜合數據顯示消費需求旺盛在節日期間。許多交易員進一步放棄了對3月份降息的押注。


    貝萊德分析師評論說:“我認爲目前的數據不足以讓美聯儲有信心在短期內降息。降息可能會在今年晚些時候發生,而不是3月份。”


    然而,這一激增也意味着更高的保費$iShares 20年以上國債ETF(TLT)$看跌期權。
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  • Success88
    ·01-18
    No surge is still indicate the market is still seeing Fed will maintain interest hike. Good luck. I just invested T bill
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  • AliceSam
    ·01-18
    我希望马上,立刻就降息,不希望降息可能会在今年晚些时候发生,
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  • hd87
    ·01-19
    I will look at the premium first before deciding to sell put of TLT during the crash. The rate cut may happen in March or some time later.
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  • 应该会在三月之后再降息,距离2%还是很遥远啊
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  • Mrzorro
    ·01-19
    it is not easy to predict the rate cut for now. I won't sell put of TLT during the crash.
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  • Oh no, this is not good for the markets at all!
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  • yhl77
    ·01-19
    Great ariticle, would you like to share it?
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  • Enjoylife
    ·01-18

    Great ariticle, would you like to share it?

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