$720 bln Evaporated in a Day! Why is that? How will market move?

On Tuesday, the US stock market wiped out $720 billion, which experienced one of the worst trading days since 2023. Growth stocks was hit hard with the outperformers turing to be the biggest loser.

Asof the close, the $DJIA(.DJI)$ fell 2%, or 697.1 points, giving back all the gains made so far this year; the $NASDAQ(.IXIC)$ fell 2.5%, or 294.97 points; the $S&P 500(.SPX)$ fell more than 2%, and almost all categories were lower.

data and chart from Fintwit

One of the key reasons for the historical drop is that the market expectation for rate hikes changed.

The worst scenario: 50bps in March and no rate cut in 2023?

1) Fed officials showed support for 50 bps in March meeting.

Cleveland Fed President Loretta Mester said Thursday

she saw a “compelling economic case” for a 50 basis-point interest-rate hike at the Fed’s Jan. 31-Feb. 1 meeting

St. Louis Fed chief James Bullard said

he wanted to bring the Fed’s policy rate up to 5.375% as soon as possible, and said he would not rule out supporting a half-percentage-point interest-rate hike at the Fed’s March meeting.

data from cme group; 80% expects 25bps in March

2) In addition to the March decision, Goldman Sachs also altered the rate cut estimates.

Goldman Sachs' chief economist Jan Hatzius said that

the central bank will raise benchmark rates above 5% this year and then hold them at that level until 2024. We don't expect cuts in the funds rate until well into 2024 in our baseline forecast.

How will market move later? A pullback starts?

1) Bearish

Morgan Stanley’s Mike Wilson warned that

The stock market entered the“death zone,” with valuations hard to justify based on the outlook for earnings.

Stock market could possibly fall more than 20% and see the the $S&P 500(.SPX)$ trade in a range of 3,000 to 3,300, and was in for “at least a retest of the October lows.”

The S&P 500 closed at 3,583 on Oct. 14, or 12.2% below its Friday close.

2) Bullish

History data shows that investors can do reasonably well in March.

According to data from Yardeni Research, which looked into returns dating back to 1928, the S&P 500 on average rises 0.5% in the month.

Stocks have gone up 57 times in March during that time frame and have fallen 37 times.

How do you view the $720 bln losses?

A pullback starts or not?

Do you have hedging strategies to protect your portfolio?

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  • LMSunshine
    ·2023-02-22
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    I’m not surprised by the $720B losses as economic data hasn’t been favourable. I expect another 25bps and further monitoring by Feds but if other unfavourable data come in, Feds may rise by 50bps during the next FOMC meeting. A pull-back will start anytime when investors become fearful but a real plunge will be when Feds increase by 50bps. I think it’s too risky to buy bear ETFs to hedge my portfolio but will take the chance to buy the dip/average down for quality stocks. Thanks loads @Tiger_chat for this important discussion❣️
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    • LMSunshineReplying toKindryl
      Do choose good companies to average down as we never know which conpanies may go bust and for how long US market will be down🤓
      2023-02-23
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    • Kindryl
      Agree. I m going in to DCA
      2023-02-23
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    • Kaixiang
      Same sentiments, buddy! [Grin]
      2023-02-23
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  • LMSunshine
    ·2023-02-22
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    • Universe宇宙
      [ShakeHands] [Like]
      2023-02-23
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    • SPOT_ON
      ok 👍
      2023-02-23
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    • BenjiFuji
      [Grin]thxs
      2023-02-23
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  • LMSunshine
    ·2023-02-22
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  • Kaixiang
    ·2023-02-23
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    A pullback seems inevitable especially after a massive rally as well as recent stubborn inflation and hawkish Fed comments.
    It will not be surprising for slightly larger rate hikes and higher terminal rates since the overall labour market remains strong.
    I don’t have a hedging strategy in mind. Instead, continue to focus on building a diversified portfolio including those that will thrive or survive in a high interest rate environment.
    Would definitely avoid companies that are not profitable, and also speculative stocks that will be under immese pressure from the elevated interest rates.
    Don’t panic sell as long as you are holding onto fundamentally strong companies. Look for the next price level to DCA or enter the next good bargains.
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  • koolgal
    ·2023-02-23
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    🌟🌟🌟It was Doom and Gloom yesterday with USD 720 billion wiped off in a day!  But that's the nature of investing.  The thing to do is not to panic sell but keep a calm demeanour and ride out the storm.   I do this by investing in a diversified portfolio of quality shares and plain vanilla ETFs with a long term horizon.

    High Inflation is the culprit and Hawkish Feds are intent to bring it down to 2% by increasing interest rates.   It is not an exact science and the markets are worried that if the Feds move too quickly or too far, it could tip the economy into recession. 

    It looks like the Bear is back and a good strategy is to buy $Nasdaq100 Bear 3X ETF(SQQQ)$  . SQQQ has jumped 11% in the past 5 days.  SQQQ inflows soar as investors bet against Tech. 

    Volatility is here to stay and no matter which way the markets go, I take comfort that it is time in the markets that count and not timing the market.

    @Tiger_chat  

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    • Huiz84
      Its part and parcel in investments to see ups and downs. probably a pullback starts again. For hedging strategies , i have none.
      2023-02-26
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    • koolgalReplying toxiaobaii
      Thanks
      2023-02-24
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    • koolgalReplying tobreAkdaWn
      Thanks for your wonderful feedback.  Have a wonderful weekend 😍😍😍🏖️🏖️🏖️
      2023-02-24
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  • Fenger1188
    ·2023-02-22
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    PMI数据远超预期,美股重挫,市场预期美联储进一步升息。周二是一个很糟糕的日子,仿佛又回到2022年…😓,投资者在恐慌中乱抛售股票🥹。 三大股指均创去年12月15日以来最大单日跌幅 。看着股票一直往下跌📉,那种感觉很不好受🤦‍♀️。预计美联储应该会再次加息25个基点,那么对股市的影响应该不大。希望美联储再次救市,不要加息50个基点。 我会继续等待机会买入$老虎证券(TIGR)$$特斯拉(TSLA)$。 愿大家天天好心情❤️股票大涨🚀🚀🚀请加入留言赢虎币 @JC888 @amroui @KYHBKO @Zarkness @Success88 @BenjiFuji @BenjiFuji @DiAngel @rL @财运到财源滚滚到 @koolgal @melson
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  • luv2trade
    ·2023-02-22
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    There is sign that the market may need to pull back or digest gains - Two of the most followed sentiment indicators show signs that bears that may have overstayed their welcome are capitulating. The CNN Fear & Greed Index, a sentiment gauge that combines seven different indicators to distinguish what “emotion” is driving the market, has flashed a “greed signal” for over a month. The American Association of Individual Investors’ (AAII), another closely followed sentiment gauge, recently flipped from bears making up the majority to bulls making up the majority. This week marks the first consecutive two-week stretch in which bulls outweighed bears in more than one year. While the sentiment indicators should not be used in a stand-alone manner and are not a timing device, the data should raise investors’ antennas. As legendary General George S Patton once warned, “If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn’t thinking @Tiger_chat
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    • HelenJanet
      Thanks for sharing your insights. 👍👍
      2023-02-22
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  • Zarkness
    ·2023-02-23
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    A pull back is imminent as rate hikes pointed to 50bps is on the books of fed . To tame inflation is always a hard job especially we are living in a world of cheap money era for the longest time in history . but this is not new since last year interest rates start to rise . A down trend have been established. In order for trend changing , a base has to be form in longer period as this is a long fight against inflation. we shall see how it goes. Hopefully everyone stay safe and do not over leve rage . Hedging is also a good way to deleverage for your portfolio. But i am not learned in this so i cannot comment .
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    • LMSunshine
      Agree❣️
      2023-02-23
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  • MHh
    ·2023-02-23
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    I think for the past year, the story has been rate hikes then stock prices drop and converse is true. At least for the next quarter, im more bearish but doesn’t change my strategy. Continue to buy at good price targets
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  • Shop
    ·2023-02-22
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    The uncertain macro outlook which has been caused by improving economic data in the US and a Federal Reserve likely to remain on the hawkish path has halted the bullish momentum equities were enjoying up until a few weeks ago. Add to the mix bleak earnings and unsettling forecasts from some of the biggest retailers and you’ve got the perfect recipe for a sustained pullback in stocks, which culminated in a 2% and 1.6% drop in the Nasdaq and the S&P 500 on Tuesday after a long weekend in the US. A pullback here should be welcomed by investors to work off excess bullishness and set up new buy zones. As always, patience is a virtue. @Tiger_chat @onlyYou
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  • GoodLife99
    ·2023-02-22
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    Keep an eye for the good favourable stocks / DCA while I can, I do not fear regarding the interest rates hike since this is not a new new topic [Facepalm], it's normal for the volatility if not it will not call stocks market. Seat & hold tide!
    Just remember, eventually the waiting will pay off! [smile]
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    • GoodLife99Replying toLMSunshine
      [smile] [Like] [ShakeHands]
      2023-02-23
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    • LMSunshine
      Agree❣️
      2023-02-23
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    • GoodLife99
      Additionally, the wiped out of 720 bil is a sign of commencement of another Bull run is coming once rate hike confirm at another 50bps? LOL, don't predict the market & don't listen to the analyst/ xx firm, make your own wise decision!
      2023-02-22
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  • onlyYou
    ·2023-02-22
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    The markets are starting to realise that the slowdown in CPI is likely to be more stubborn than they thought when disinflation started a few months ago has caused them to panic slightly. Of course, the weakness in equities had already started as a resilient jobs market and strong retail sales in January open the path for the Fed to keep rates higher for longer, something they have preached since the beginning but markets failed to believe. @Tiger_chat
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  • Snoopymint
    ·2023-02-22
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    $720bln is inevitable and will fall further in view of the looming recession and increase interest rates. My hedging strategy is to buy SG bank stocks and REITS for dividends. Trusted SG stocks - less volatile
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    • LMSunshine
      Agree❣️
      2023-02-23
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  • Kingcat
    ·2023-02-22
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    rate hikes, supply disruptions due to COVID n energy crises due to war comes together for a dangerous cocktail for recession. this is the first time in decades where the markets have experienced such a combination so it is difficult to think that recession can be averted this time. markets will continue to be volatile. will be trading with caution with a bias towards value stocks
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  • b1uesky
    ·2023-02-22
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    Like the people say, don't time the market.  Just buy n hold the stocks, which you are comfortable with company profile and annual growth. Continue to dollar-cost average, which  the stocks you are favour will be a better choice.
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  • SPOT_ON
    ·2023-02-23
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    A healthy pullback is most welcome... stocks never go up in a straight line... they are always moving in a zig zag pattern.... wave up wave down...

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  • Zarkness
    ·2023-02-23
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    A pull back is imminent as rate hikes pointed to 50bps is on the books of fed . To tame inflation is always a hard job especially we are living in a world of cheap money era for the longest time in history . but this is not new since last year interest rates start to rise . A down trend have been established. In order for trend changing , a base has to be form in longer period as this is a long fight against inflation. we shall see how it goes. Hopefully everyone stay safe and do not over leve rage .
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  • deal2deal
    ·2023-02-22
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    Volatile geopolitical landscape as president Biden made a surprise visit to Ukraine. Whilst the direct impact on stock prices is hard to value, we know that rising geopolitical tensions are usually bad for the overall stock market as it leads to an increase in risk aversion and demand for safe havens like the US dollar or gold. @Tiger_chat
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    • LMSunshine
      Agree❣️
      2023-02-23
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  • Just Do It
    ·2023-02-22
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    it's hard to predict the market, but in my opinion market volatility is getting obvious for recent years. so I think it would be great if we can buy certain put options to hedge our portfolio during the downturn.

    Based on technical analysis, we are actually having correction after almost nearly two quarters of rebound waves.

    To me its healthy correction

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  • PhilipChow
    ·2023-02-23
    This $720 bln losses are caused by the bounce of PPI making the market start to fear that inflation will still at high level and hard to fight against it


    A pullback will starts if Nasdaq index fall below 11500


    Hedging strategy is to invest some in inflation resistance stock like Waste Management
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