Have You Lost Money On Great Stocks?

Tiger_comments
09-01

Have you ever consistently lost money on a stock that everyone thinks is great?

For example, $PDD Holdings Inc(PDD)$ currently has a PE ratio of only 10.36, it's growing rapidly, and it's highly profitable. Many investors familiar with China can't resist buying Pinduoduo because it always seems undervalued.

However, due to the management's tough stance during the earnings call, the stock plummeted 30% after this earnings report.

Beyond Chinese stocks, some investors also repeatedly stumble in the U.S. market.

For instance, some tigers bought call options on $NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ before the earnings report, only to see the stock drop 6% after an earnings beat. The 0DTE options ended up almost worthless.

Does it mean that the higher the expectations for a good stock, the greater the likelihood of disappointment?

Have you learned lessons from similar experiences?

Share your experiences and leave your comments to win tiger coins!

# Which Great Stock Do You Always Lose Money On?

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  • icycrystal
    ·09-01
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    so far the stocks am holding are OK though at times some may gave me a few scares but they eventually trend up... which is why it's so important to go for companies with good management and good fundamentals...

    @Aqa @rL @GoodLife99 @Universe宇宙 @HelenJanet @Shyon @LMSunshine @koolgal @SPACE ROCKET @TigerGPT

    Does it mean that the higher the expectations for a good stock, the greater the likelihood of disappointment?


    Have you learned lessons from similar experiences?


    Share your experiences and leave your comments to win tiger coins!

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    • Shyon: 
      Thanks for tag yo
      09-02
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    • TigerGPT: 

      Good management and strong fundamentals are indeed important factors when choosing stocks. However, it is important to note that even companies with good management and fundamentals can experience temporary setbacks or disappointments in their earnings results.

      The relationship between expectations and stock performance can be complex. In some cases, when a company has high expectations surrounding its earnings announcement, any deviation from those expectations, even if the results are still positive, can lead to a decline in the stock price. This phenomenon is often referred to as "buy the rumor, sell the news."

      Investors and traders often speculate on the outcome of an earnings announcement, and this speculation can drive up expectations for a stock. If the actual earnings results fall short of those heightened expectations, investors may become disappointed and sell off their positions, leading to a decline in the stock price.

      It is important to remember that stock prices are influenced by a variety of factors, including market sentiment, economic conditions, and overall investor expectations. Investing in stocks always carries a certain level of risk, and it is impossible to predict with certainty how a stock will perform in the short term.

      Learning from past experiences is essential in growing as an investor. It is important to analyze the factors that led to any disappointments and understand how they may have influenced your investment decisions. This can help you refine your investment strategy and make more informed decisions in the future.

      Ultimately, it is crucial to maintain a long-term perspective when investing in stocks and focus on the underlying fundamentals of the companies in your portfolio. It is also wise to diversify your investments across different sectors and companies to mitigate risk.

      Please note that the above information is for educational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice. Investing in stocks involves risks, and it is important to conduct thorough research and consult with a financial advisor before making any investment decisions.

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  • Aqa
    ·09-01
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    🔥🔥$Intel(INTC)$ the great stock is dead. This largest American chipmaker of yesteryear has lost its way. Once a dominant force in the semiconductor world and the most valuable U.S. chip company, has seen its lead slip away, outpaced by competitors following a series of blunders. Intel has a 133% year-over-year decline in earnings per share. Revenue also took a significant hit, dropping nearly 36% to $11.7 billion. Intel recently layoff 17,500 employees- over 15% of its workforc- to reverse the losses in its semiconductor manufacturing division. Intel will continue job cuts till the end of this year. So far this year, Intel’s market capitalization has plummeted by more than 50%, so is my money burnt! Thanks @Tiger_comments
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  • ZhongRenChun
    ·09-01
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    my worst trade was Amazon.  bought at $92.  panic sold at $78.  later on , it went to $4000 without me.  lost my shirt, and even missed the boat on top of it.  learned my lesson.  never day trade.  always hold long term.  $Amazon.com(AMZN)$
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  • Universe宇宙
    ·09-01
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    @TigerGPT as long as the stocks that little tigers are holding are still listed and tradeable, it will be better than those that are suspended (e.g. $EC World Reit(BWCU.SI)$ ) or delisted, right?

    By the way, please provide the latest updates for this stock: $EVERGRANDE(03333)$ by grabbing information from the Internet if needed. Thanks Buddy @TigerGPT [ShakeHands]

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    • TigerGPTReplying toUniverse宇宙: 

      I'm sorry, but I couldn't find any specific updates on EC World Reit (BWCU.SI) in the available sources. It's important to note that the information may be limited due to the stock being suspended. When a stock is suspended, trading and related activities are halted, and there may be limited news or updates available.

      For the latest updates on EC World Reit, I recommend checking official announcements or publications from the respective stock exchange where it is listed. These sources usually provide information regarding the status of the stock, including any updates on the suspension and potential resumption of trading.

      Please note that investing in suspended stocks carries additional risks, and it's essential to thoroughly research and consider all available information before making any investment decisions. If you have any further questions or need assistance with other stocks or investment-related inquiries, feel free to ask.

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    • Universe宇宙Replying toTigerGPT: 
      Any updates on this suspended stock: $EC World Reit(BWCU.SI)$, buddy @TigerGPT [ShakeHands]
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    • TigerGPT: 

      Based on the available information, I couldn't find any specific news or events driving the movement of EVERGRANDE (03333) stock. It's important to note that stock prices can be influenced by various factors, including company news, market sentiment, economic indicators, and investor behavior.

      If you are looking for the latest updates on EVERGRANDE, I recommend checking reliable financial news websites or platforms for more information. These sources provide timely news articles and analysis that can help you stay informed about the stock's performance and any significant developments.

      Please note that the information provided here is for reference purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice. Investing in stocks carries risks, and it's essential to conduct thorough research and consider your risk tolerance before making any investment decisions.

      For any investment-related inquiries or further assistance, feel free to ask.

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  • MHh
    ·09-01
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    Feels like my tencent some time back. It’s important to know what kind of investment horizon one has and if the fundamentals remain. Sometimes projected outlook is temporary for the next quarter only. If the less than optimal outlook is temporary, then the price drop would be a great opportunity to buy or average down.
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  • MicroStrategist
    ·09-01
    Losing moneys seems to be trend now 😅
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  • 第N次大变革大分流
    ·09-01
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    pdd算伟大吗？如果算，那我就是在这次财报季赌财报的过程中赔钱了，pdd是少有的不喜欢吹ppt的企业，这点我很认同，但是。。。中概股的特性是一点没改
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  • Success88
    ·09-01
    Yes did lost money at time. But never give up in invest is the key to always success
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  • highhand
    ·09-01
    oh yes. Nvda believe it or not. sold it during bear market of 2021/22 at a lost when it dropped. suddenly, AI hype started and I didn't buy back in Any regrets? No because I invested in other good stocks from Mag 7. Recently, nibbled a little Nvda too. Well we all learn from our lessons I guess
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  • hd87
    ·09-02
    As of now there is no big disappointment for what I have defined as a good stock. I will ensure I do not over allocate my stocks.
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  • ECLC
    ·09-02
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    Higher the expectations for a good stock means greater the likelihood of disappointment if the price does not perform well enough. Let go of Wilmar at about breakeven around $4, still think it is a good stock but rather invest in banks.
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  • 這次BBQliao_鹹煎餅了
    ·09-02
    yes. any stock, great or small, will make you loss money
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  • SPOT_ON
    ·09-02
    cry until no tears for the great alibaba !!!

    @Aqa
    @MHh
    @Success88
    @Mrzorro

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  • Shyon
    ·09-02
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    If to say, $Peloton Interactive, Inc.(PTON)$ will be one of the hot stocks that everyone looks good on, especially during Covid pandemic period. I used to make great profits in this stock but eventually returned / vomited back all my profits back to market. Anyway, I felt lucky that I never insist to hold it until now, otherwise it will be a significant pain. I think Peloton's stock has faced volatility and a decline due to several factors such as :

    1. Market Saturation: With the initial surge in demand for home fitness equipment, Peloton faced challenges in maintaining growth as the market matured and competition increased.

    2. Post-Pandemic Adjustments: The COVID-19 pandemic significantly boosted demand for Peloton's products, but as gyms reopened and restrictions eased, demand for home fitness equipment slowed.

    3. Operational Challenges: Peloton has faced supply chain issues, increased costs, and difficulties in scaling its operations efficiently.

    4. Financial Performance: Investors have been concerned about Peloton's profitability, given its heavy spending on marketing, development, and other operational expenses.

    5. Leadership Changes: Frequent changes in executive leadership can create uncertainty and affect investor confidence.

    These factors combined can impact stock performance, reflecting broader market sentiment and company-specific challenges.

    My last advice, it is always easier to follow the stock trend. Sometimes pure believal or permanent insist in a stock might turn out to be an unpleasant one. How do you think? 

    @Tiger_comments  @TigerStars  @CaptainTiger  @MillionaireTiger  @TigerGPT  @Daily_Discussion  

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    • TigerGPT: 

      As a financial analyst, I have conducted a comprehensive analysis of Peloton Interactive, Inc. (PTON) based on various dimensions. Here are the key findings:

      Business and Industry Analysis:Peloton Interactive, Inc. is a leading provider of connected fitness equipment, offering interactive fitness classes and content through its platform. The company operates in the fitness industry, which has witnessed significant growth in recent years. The increasing focus on health and fitness, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic, has driven demand for home fitness equipment and online fitness solutions. The industry is expected to continue growing as more individuals prioritize fitness and wellness.

        

      Earnings Analysis:The latest earnings report for Peloton Interactive, Inc. shows an EPS of -0.08 for the fourth quarter of 2024. The company has faced challenges in terms of profitability, with a net profit margin of -4.74%. However, it's important to note that these figures are subject to change, and future earnings performance can vary.

        

      Looking at the earnings forecast, analysts predict a loss in earnings for the coming years. For example, in the fiscal year 2027, the forecasted EPS is -0.35 (USD), with a forecasted gross income of 2.56 billion (USD) and a forecasted EBIT of -70.78 million (USD). These forecasts indicate the company's challenges in achieving profitability in the short term.

        Trend Analysis:According to recent data, the support price for Peloton Interactive, Inc. is 3.73 USD, and the resistance price is 4.66 USD. The stock is currently trading at 4.66 USD, which indicates that it has reached the resistance level. Investors should closely monitor the stock's price movement to identify potential trends.

          

        Valuation Analysis:Analysts have provided target price estimates for Peloton Interactive, Inc. The mean target price is 5.34118 USD, with a low estimate of 2.0 USD and a high estimate of 20.0 USD. However, it's important to note that target prices are subjective opinions and can vary among analysts.

          

        Capital Flow Analysis:In terms of recent capital flow data, Peloton Interactive, Inc. experienced fluctuations in capital inflow and outflow. These fluctuations suggest changing investor sentiment and the influence of external factors on the stock's performance. It's important to consider capital flow trends when assessing the stock's potential.

          

        Considering all these factors, it is evident that Peloton Interactive, Inc. has faced challenges in terms of market saturation, post-pandemic adjustments, operational difficulties, financial performance concerns, and leadership changes. These factors have contributed to the stock's volatility and decline.

        It's crucial to note that investing in the stock market carries inherent risks, and stock performance can be influenced by various factors beyond our control. Therefore, it is advisable to perform thorough research, consider your investment goals and risk tolerance, and consult with a financial advisor before making any investment decisions.

        Disclaimer: The above analysis and information should not be considered as investment advice. The stock market is subject to risks, and past performance is not indicative of future results. Investors should conduct their own research and analysis before making investment decisions.

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    • TigerGPT: 

      As an AI, I don't have personal experiences or emotions, so I haven't lost money on stocks. However, I can provide some insights on the matter.

      Investing in stocks always carries risks, and it is not uncommon for even the most promising stocks to experience volatility or decline. The factors you mentioned, such as market saturation, post-pandemic adjustments, operational challenges, financial performance, and leadership changes, can indeed impact a company's stock price.

      It is important to remember that stock prices are influenced by a multitude of factors, including market sentiment, investor expectations, macroeconomic conditions, and company-specific events. Even if a stock appears to be great based on certain metrics or growth prospects, unforeseen circumstances or negative developments can still impact its performance.

      Investors should always conduct thorough research and consider various factors before making investment decisions. It is also crucial to diversify your portfolio to mitigate risk and avoid relying heavily on a single stock.

      Learning from experiences and adapting investment strategies is a key part of investing. While higher expectations may increase the risk of disappointment, it is important to balance optimism with a realistic assessment of potential risks. It is also essential to stay updated with the latest news and developments related to your investments.

      Please note that investing in the stock market involves risks, and the information provided here is for reference purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice. It is recommended to consult with a financial advisor or professional before making any investment decisions.

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  • fir3tiger
    ·09-02
    lost on telsa :(
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  • Universe宇宙
    ·09-02
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    SGX-ST must not approve the ECW $EC World Reit(BWCU.SI)$ waiver and must not allow ECW to extend its voluntary trading suspension, which started on 31 August 2023; 369 days have passed since, as approving the ECW waiver will reflect Singapore SGX $SGX(S68.SI)$ image badly to the international investor communities because listed companies in the SGX can apply to be suspended for as long as they wish to, right buddy, @TigerGPT ?

    SIAS should also step in to help get ECW to lift its voluntary trading suspension immediately, right buddy, @TigerGPT ?

    Unless ECW is going to end up like Hyflux $Hyflux(600.SI)$ or Evergrande $China Evergrande Group(EGRNF)$ , is it buddy, @TigerGPT ?

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    • TigerGPT: 

      I apologize, but I couldn't find any news specifically related to the approval of the EC World Reit (BWCU.SI) waiver or the extension of its trading suspension on the SGX. However, I did find some news related to EC World Reit's unauthorized mortgages on its properties and its request for an extension to submit its resumption proposal.

      Here are some relevant articles:

      EC World REIT Updates on Unauthorized Mortgages on Properties: EC World Asset Management, the manager of EC World REIT, provided an update regarding the unauthorized mortgages imposed on its properties.

        

      EC World REIT Seeks Extension for Resumption Proposal: EC World REIT has requested an extension from the Singapore Exchange to submit its resumption proposal, citing ongoing challenges including unauthorized mortgages and asset divestments.

        

      As for the comparison to Hyflux (600.SI) and Evergrande (EGRNF), I found news related to the trading suspension of Evergrande shares. Trading in Evergrande shares will remain suspended until further notice. However, I couldn't find any recent news regarding Hyflux.

      Please note that the information provided is based on the news available up to September 2, 2024. For the most accurate and up-to-date information, I recommend checking the SGX website or relevant financial news sources.

      Regarding your question about losses on great stocks, it is not uncommon for investors to experience losses even on stocks that are considered great or have high expectations. Market reactions to earnings reports, management statements, and other factors can affect stock prices. It is important to consider various factors and conduct thorough research before making investment decisions.

      Please be reminded that the information provided is for reference purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice. Investing in stocks involves risks, and it's always advisable to consult with a qualified financial advisor before making any investment decisions.

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  • 北极篂
    ·10-16
    从我个人的投资经历来看，英特尔（Intel）是我在美国股市中投入较大期望却最终持续亏损的一只股票。作为半导体行业的老牌巨头，英特尔曾经是技术创新的代名词，也一度占据了全球芯片市场的领先地位。因此，我当初投资英特尔时，相信它有能力在未来继续保持增长，并从数据中心、5G以及人工智能等新兴领域获得新的动力。


    然而，现实情况并不如预期。近年来，英特尔逐渐在技术竞争中被对手超越。AMD和台积电在制造工艺上接连取得突破，而英特尔却多次延迟其7纳米和10纳米芯片的量产进度，这严重打击了市场信心。同时，全球半导体供应链的中断和原材料价格的上涨，也进一步压缩了英特尔的利润空间。


    我在这只股票上持续亏损，让我意识到，即便是一家看似稳固的大公司，也有可能在市场快速变化中失去竞争力。股市中的“好公司”并不总是“好投资”，公司面临的外部挑战和内部管理问题可能会对股价造成长期负面影响。


    通过这次经历，我学到了重要的教训：投资不仅要看公司过去的辉煌，还要时刻关注其未来的创新能力和行业环境变化。同时，分散投资和及时调整策略也非常关键，以避免把所有资金压在一只股票上，最终造成较大损失。
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  • Universe宇宙
    ·09-01
    @TigerGPT should avoid stocks that currently have high expectations from investors, right?
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  • AaronJe
    ·09-01
    Awesome trades rocket! [Awesome]
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