Is the market in a downward cycle? Are the negative factors bringing bearish

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Summary of this post:

First, the surge in U.S. stocks in 2023 was due to risk appetite, and will also fall due to the dispersal of risk appetite. Fitch announced the downgrade starts the prelude to "fall";

Second, the current risk premium capability of the US. stock market is already very low (reflected by the high price-earnings ratio of the market), even if there is no Fitch downgrade event, it will be difficult for US stocks to continue to grow.

This downgrade the credit of U.S. treasury bonds on the surface, is actually increases the risk level of all U.S. assets.

Some other negative macro factors:

Liquidity Perspective:

  • The US money supply falling at the fastest rate since the 1930s, which is largely a consequence of the reversal of the liquidity generated by massive post-pandemic fiscal and monetary stimulus, the Federal Reserve shrinking its balance sheet via quantitative tightening, falling bank deposits, and weak demand for and provision of credit. And the decline of M2 in the United States means that market liquidity is still tightening further, which will be transmitted to the economy and the stock market.

  • The Biden administration originally exempted students from student loans, but in the game with the Republican Party on the debt ceiling, it promised to resume student loan repayments from September 1. There are currently 43 million people who owe a total of $1.78 trillion in student loans. These people are both the main force of consumption and the main force of stock speculation. It means that starting in September, both consumption and the stock market will be affected.

Credit Crisis

  • Fitch's lowering of the national credit of the United States will have a certain chain reaction with the credit of the two companies. This is because many large investment institutions have clear agreements with investors when raising funds. For example, investing in bonds must be 3A Now that Fitch has lowered the rating, it will inevitably lead to some selling.

  • Moody's newly lowered the ratings of ten bank stocks, and also issued a warning to the well-known Bank of New York Mellon. Moody's believes that the banking industry is facing multiple pressures. In addition to high interest rates, there are more and more commercial real estate storms in the United States, and the bad debt rate is increasing. This puts increasing pressure on regional banks and increases risks and uncertainties.

Inflation & Recession

  • Rising oil prices will further squeeze consumption space. To put it another way, the United States’ consumption of imported goods has decreased significantly in the past six months. This is due to the increase in service industry expenditures under the great inflation, which has squeezed commodity consumption. Therefore, it has constituted a negative impact on Asian manufacturing countries such as China, Vietnam, and India. Bad news. In the first half of the year, oil prices fell, leaving room for US consumption, and the situation reversed in the second half of the year.

  • The U.S. labor market has reached an inflection point. According to data from Ziprecruiter, the current number of vacancies in the U.S. and the enthusiasm of employers for hiring have fallen off a cliff from the peak of the previous two years. It means that soon, US policy will need to shift from reducing inflation to dealing with recession.

According to the previous experience and theoretical analysis or in view of the following situations:

1) U.S. Treasury bond yields need to be cut sharply, or Federal Reserve interest rates need to be cut, but market estimates are not realistic in the short term (3-6 months);

2) The risk appetite of funds has changed again, and funds are flowing from the stock market back to the bond market for safety reasons.

In the short term, US stocks are not yet ready for a bear market.

Under the reality that the Fed is unlikely to enter a cycle of interest rate cuts in the short term, the self-regulation of the market means that the stock market has reached its peak, and there is a high probability that it will enter an adjustment period. So does this mean that US stocks will enter a bear market immediately? In the short term, US stocks are not yet ready for a bear market.

The level of market risk appetite will be adjusted downward, but so far we believe that the adjustment range is still acceptable: the macroeconomic fundamentals remain at a high level (the unemployment rate and economic growth expectations are still relatively optimistic), and risk appetite will not fall too much .

What will happen in the market outlook?

First, stocks acquired by liquidity and high risk premium capabilities will enter a downward cycle, such as AI concepts, ChatGPT concepts, stocks with high growth expectations will bear the brunt, and value stocks will be relatively stable;

Second, the stock market basically reflects the expectations of the macro economy. Whether it is to cut interest rates in March or April next year, the subtext is that inflation will end, and the macro economy needs the Fed to cut interest rates. As far as the current situation is concerned, the stock market rose sharply before the interest rate cut very low probability.


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  • GoodLife99
    ·2023-08-11
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    US is the world's largest economy country, but got Fitch to lowering from AAA to AA+, this will definitely decrease investor confidence! Personally feel this healthy pullback it's just the beginning for the market, yet it will generate more opportunities!

    Tigers, are you ready to grab the dip by saving more bullets?

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    • koolgalReplying toGoodLife99
      My pleasure 😍😍😍
      2023-08-13
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    • GoodLife99Replying tokoolgal
      [smile] thanks Koolgal [Love]
      2023-08-13
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    • koolgal
      Thanks for sharing your awesome insights 😍😍😍Good time to buy the dip 🚀🚀🚀🌛🌛🌛💰💰💰
      2023-08-13
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  • icycrystal
    ·2023-08-11
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    I think current market is hard.to predict. some say recession is around the corner and it's inevitable but you see shopping mall is packed of people. people still spending [USD] [USD] [USD] instead of cutting back. you see people still investing in all sorts of financial instruments. you.see people still investing in stocks. perhaps some are really rich while some are.really good in saving. so they are.not worried. as for me, during this uncertain times where the market can swing either way, I will exercise caution and not trade aggressively [smile] [smile] [smile]
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    • koolgal
      Yes caution is wise during these volatile times.
      2023-08-13
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  • koolgal
    ·2023-08-13
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    🌟🌟🌟Markets do not move in straight lines and the current market is no different.  There is always some negative news to dampen the markets sentiment. But the amazing thing is that in the long run, investing in quality stocks that tick the core fundamentals of profitability, strong balance sheet and excellent management reap bumper rewards. 

    Volatility is the price we pay to enjoy tenfold gains. So if the current market is in a downward cycle, it's time to be greedy and bargain hunt these quality stocks.  That's how Warren Buffett made his billions, and that's how the magic of compounding works.

    @Tiger_comments  


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    • koolgalReplying toxXxZealandxXx
      That's fantastic news.  I am so happy for you. 😍😍😍
      2023-08-15
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    • xXxZealandxXx
      I enjoyed lastnight it was actually very stable, steady and growth uptrend night for me, hope you had a great run as well my friend.. TSLA Signals and MSFT, AMD mmm.. yes caught a Big dip on NVDA and she finally green.
      2023-08-15
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    • koolgalReplying tozuma
      Have a wonderful week ahead 😍😍😍🌈🌈🌈🍀🍀🍀
      2023-08-14
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  • Aqa
    ·2023-08-10
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    [Facepalm][Facepalm][Facepalm] Lookd like its downward trend. Credit crisis now. $Alibaba(BABA)$ safe! [Happy][Happy][Happy] Thanks @Universe宇宙
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    • GoodLife99
      I have the same thought too, just feel like this is just the beginning of falling
      2023-08-11
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    • icycrystalReplying toAqa
      what is the Chinese translation? I go back and forth but now it keeps showing in English. [Thinking] [Thinking] [Thinking] maybe the bug is taking a break and having its rest time [Happy] [Happy] [Happy]
      2023-08-11
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    • icycrystalReplying toAqa
      now it's back to English. sometimes it's showing in English sometimes it's showing on Mandarin. the bug is sure evolving [Happy] [Happy] [Happy]
      2023-08-11
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  • Shyon
    ·2023-08-11
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    How do I read the current market? I think the pullback is pretty normal and healthy after a long rally since months ago. It's always better for the market to take a rest and wash out some retailers before ready for next rally. If it keeps on rally without rest, then we will be in an overbought situation where the impact will be more significant and pain when the collapse arrives one day. The correction might last over the whole month I think. Stay safe and patient! Come and join the discussion guys, thanks for reading too!
    @GoodLife99 @Aqa @Universe宇宙 @icycrystal @b1uesky @rL @koolgal
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    • ShyonReplying tokoolgal
      Align with your point of view. Nice.
      2023-08-14
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    • koolgal
      Thanks for sharing your wisdom and knowledge.  It is good for the markets to take a breather from the rally before ramping up again.
      2023-08-13
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    • Universe宇宙
      [Chuckle]
      2023-08-11
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  • koolgal
    ·2023-08-10
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    🌟🌟🌟Investors are waiting with bated breath the CPI report to be released later tonight to see if inflation is trending downwards.  If it is, the markets will be boosted by this positive news.
    However if there is a spike, the sentiments will be negative.
    However it is important to look at the long term horizon when investing and allow the magic of compounding to happen.  For it is only then that our returns can be magnified.  It is time in the market that counts, not timing the markets.
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  • Universe宇宙
    ·2023-08-10
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  • xXxZealandxXx
    ·2023-08-14
    Morena Tigers....

    🤣😂 no comment.. foreseen and adjusted to bear price. sucked up the lose to fix the TSLA, MSFT, AMD, SPY ETFs and oh yeah TSM ( ugh problem I always give 2nd chances in TSM case 3rd [LOL] ). The big Loser (NVDA) concerning however..

    Thanks @Universe宇宙 [ShakeHands] [Heart]

    Cheers @Tiger_comments ✌️😎

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    • koolgalReplying toxXxZealandxXx
      That is great my friend.  Happy to hear that 😍😍😍🍀🍀🍀
      2023-08-14
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    • xXxZealandxXxReplying tokoolgal
      yeah bear in full attack. Luckly I decided to make the adjustment change, as it would have been a devastating start of the week.
      2023-08-14
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    • koolgal
      The Bear 🐻 is very much back in action this week!  Go away Bear!  Let's get the Bull 🐂to chase away the Bear!  Until then it's like the Red Sea. 😢
      2023-08-14
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  • LMSunshine
    ·2023-08-23
    View the market as 🐻-ish, investors are looking forward to $NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ to save day again. If NVDA disappoints, the Aug sell-off will continue. If NVDA surprises, the bull rally might resume. Thanks loads @Tiger_comments for the helpful post❣️
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  • StickyRice
    ·2023-08-16




    China surprises with a rate cut after disappointing economic data, while Japan reports stronger than expected Q2 GDP. UK sees a sharp jump in average weekly earnings, renewing speculation of a 50 bp rate hike by the Bank of England. US dollar is mixed, with the Swedish krona and dollar-bloc currencies struggling, while the Swiss franc and sterling lead other European currencies higher. Rising 10-year rates in Japan could lead to higher rates globally, impacting stock market valuations. A stronger dollar could result in slower global growth and higher global inflation rates, affecting central bank monetary policies. Tighter financial conditions caused by a strong dollar and higher yields may lead to a decline in stock prices and higher implied volatility.
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  • Universe宇宙
    ·2023-08-10
    [Thinking] How come our food still so expensive even when CPI dropping?
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    • Universe宇宙Replying toicycrystal
      inflation likely go up when the war drag more countries in [Onlooker]
      2023-08-11
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    • icycrystal
      yeah, good question. is it because of the war btw Russia and Ukraine [Thinking] [Thinking] [Thinking]
      2023-08-11
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  • diggydog
    ·2023-08-13
    Keep buying quality companies at reasonable price. Over the long run, the market as well as the economy will continue to grow. 🚀🚀
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  • Kok
    ·2023-08-10
    Nah.. we just started a new bull market. This current reversal is just a pullback. Definitely buy on dips.
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  • highhand
    ·2023-08-10
    forget the macro. this is a healthy correction, usually 5-10% before we bull run all the way till year end
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  • Bunifa Latif
    ·2023-08-13
    The market is likely to decline. It has been elevated for some time and the fundamentals are too weak to sustain!
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  • Aqa
    ·2023-08-10
    BaBa boack Bear have yoo any good? [Tongue][Tongue][Tongue]
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    • Aqa
      @highhand Bull run all the way to year end. Good news! [Strong][Strong][Strong]
      2023-08-11
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    • Aqa
      Bull no strength. Toi many bears.
      2023-08-10
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  • MicroStrategist
    ·2023-08-10
    Market has been  up for weeks. naturally now is pullback season 😅
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  • Universe宇宙
    ·2023-08-10
    Caution: Bears in area. [Comfort]
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  • Universe宇宙
    ·2023-08-10
    The bull is taking a nap?
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