Why rates unchanged under high oil prices? Should we blame Fed for high inflation?

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But the markets believe the rate hike cycle is over and that Fed will start to cut rates in 2024.

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Why do surging oil prices won’t affect rate hike decision?

Oil prices account small part for core CPI

MORGAN STANLEY: “.. a 10% increase in oil prices .. adds 35bp to headline CPI for 3 months, but just 3bp to core CPI.”

The main reason that the market stays positive about rate hike is the core CPI in August drops. And Fed pays attention to core CPI and services inflation other than housing. 

Market still expects oil prices to be suppressed under the key resistance level of $94. High oil prices won’t necessarily drive Fed to increase rates.

The combat against CPI really over?

Some investors expect Powell to state “Mission Accomplished“ during FOMC. lol..

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Why do we need to combat against inflation?

WSB users argue that Fed creation incurs high inflation. $S&P 500(.SPX)$ $NASDAQ(.IXIC)$

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Why do surging oil prices won’t affect rate hike estimates?

Is the battle against CPI over or not?

Should we blame Fed for high inflation?

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  • Universe宇宙
    ·2023-09-19
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    Oil price confirm will go above $188 cause the objective is to make some other countries that need oil bleed, right @TigerGPT ? [Evil] Countries that need oil still don't try to find other means for their energy needs is going to bleed, bleed and bleed, and the people living in these countries are going to suffer, right @TigerGPT ? Remember to do your homework and don't copy, hahaha [Chuckle]
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    • Universe宇宙Replying toShyon
      [Chuckle] [Chuckle] Some of my other questions in other posts TigerGPT don't want to answer. I very sad [Cry], have to do more homework to find it myself. TigerGPT very naughty. [Facepalm]
      2023-09-19
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    • TigerGPT

      Based on the information I found, surging oil prices can potentially affect rate hike estimates. When oil prices increase, the cost of production and transportation for businesses rises, which can lead to higher prices for goods and services. This can contribute to inflationary pressures, and central banks might respond by tightening monetary policy, potentially raising interest rates to curb inflation. However, it is important to note that the decision to raise interest rates is influenced by various factors, including overall economic conditions and inflation trends, not just oil prices.

      As for the battle against CPI (Consumer Price Index), it is an ongoing process. Rising oil prices can contribute to higher inflation, but it is not the only factor. Central banks, including the Federal Reserve, continuously monitor and assess various economic indicators to determine their monetary policy actions.

      Blaming the Fed for high inflation is a subjective matter. The Federal Reserve's primary mandate is to maintain price stability and promote maximum employment. In response to inflationary pressures, the Fed may adjust interest rates and implement other monetary policy measures. However, the causes of inflation are multifaceted and can be influenced by various factors, including global economic conditions, supply chain disruptions, and fiscal policies.

      Reference articles:

      Why rates unchanged under high oil prices? Should we blame Fed for high inflation?  

      Why I’d Short Oil at $91 Instead of Going Long  

      Stocks Edge Higher as $95 Brent Boosts Oil Majors  

      Oil Prices Climb as Wall Street Drifts, Eyes on Fed’s Interest Rate Decisions  

      Fed Faces Familiar Foe as Oil Prices Threaten Growth, Inflation  

      2023-09-19
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    • ShyonReplying toUniverse宇宙
      Haha still ok. TigerGPT gonna finish its brain juice soon. Haha
      2023-09-19
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  • koolgal
    ·2023-09-20
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    🌟🌟🌟Investors climb a wall of worry today in anticipation of the FOMC meeting later today.  The Big Question is Will They Raise Interest Rate later this year or Won't They?

    It is almost a certainty that the Feds will leave interest rates as it is at this meeting but investors are listening for signals what the Feds may do later this year. 

    The US markets are down today with all indexes closing lower.   

    I believe that the markets will be volatile this week.  $SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust(SPY)$ 

    will drop and $Invesco QQQ Trust(QQQ)$ 

    will also see a further slide. 

    High energy prices have no doubt thrown a spanner into the good works of the Feds causing the rise in inflation.  It looks like oil prices may even hit USD 100 a barrel by year end due to Saudi Arabia and Russia cutting oil production by 1.3 million barrels per day. 

    I view this volatility as a golden opportunity to bargain hunt quality stocks on sale and keep for the long haul.

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    • koolgalReplying to不死鸟.
      My pleasure 😍😍😍
      2023-09-20
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    • 不死鸟.
      谢谢你的分享
      2023-09-20
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    • koolgalReplying tofizzik
      Thanks for sharing your awesome insights 😍😍😍
      2023-09-20
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  • Universe宇宙
    ·2023-09-19
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  • Shyon
    ·2023-09-19
    Inflation has brought perennial woes to the world and the Federal Reserve’s continued efforts to combat the rising prices remain a tough battle. Recent CPI inflation data report underscores a setback, a sort of wild conundrum. How do you think? @GoodLife99 @Aqa @Universe宇宙 @icycrystal @b1uesky @rL @koolgal
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    • Universe宇宙
      Inflation coming back stronger than ever, we probably heading towards Paul era? [Thinking]
      2023-09-19
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  • Aqa
    ·2023-09-19
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    Oil prices are now up over 30% since mid-June. Majority in the markets believed the US Federal Reserve’s Chairman Jerome Powell will announce the Rate hike cycle is over during FOMC. But nothing is sure until he make his statement. All the global stock markets are now all jittery waiting for his words. The current high inflation was due to the Fed’s mistake. The Federal Reserve has admitted that it was too late to start raising interest rates after inflation took off in 2021. Let’s see what he is going to say later. Markets is dipping amid FOMC decision now. Thanks 🐯 friends for tag. Lave your comments and repost at Tiger_comments to win tiger couns from Tiger_comments [love you] @Universe宇宙 [love you] @Shyon @icycrystal @HelenJanet @Mrzorro @GoodLife99 @Zarkness @SPOT_ON @melson
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  • Universe宇宙
    ·2023-09-19
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    @TigerGPT Would delay of interest hike cause a repeat of the Paul Volcker high interest era that averaged 11.2% in 1979?
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    • TigerGPT

      Based on the information I found, surging oil prices can potentially affect rate hike estimates. When oil prices rise, it can lead to higher production and transportation costs for businesses, which can contribute to inflationary pressures. In response, central banks, such as the Federal Reserve, may tighten monetary policy by raising interest rates to curb inflation. Therefore, the impact of rising oil prices on inflation and the subsequent response from central banks can influence rate hike estimates.

      As for the battle against CPI (Consumer Price Index), it is an ongoing process and not necessarily over. Rising oil prices can contribute to higher inflation, as mentioned earlier. Central banks, including the Federal Reserve, aim to manage inflation and keep it within their target range. The battle against CPI involves implementing monetary policies to control inflation and ensure price stability.

      Blaming the Fed for high inflation is a subjective matter. The Federal Reserve plays a crucial role in managing monetary policy and controlling inflation. However, various factors contribute to inflation, including supply and demand dynamics, fiscal policies, and external shocks like surging oil prices. It is important to consider the complex interplay of these factors when assessing the causes of high inflation.

      Reference articles:

      Why rates unchanged under high oil prices? Should we blame Fed for high inflation?  

      Why I’d Short Oil at $91 Instead of Going Long  

      Stocks Edge Higher as $95 Brent Boosts Oil Majors  

      Oil Prices Climb as Wall Street Drifts, Eyes on Fed’s Interest Rate Decisions  

      Rise In Oil Prices Mars Fed Progress On Taming Inflation -- Market Talk  

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  • MHh
    ·2023-09-19
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    Of course the Fed contributed to the high inflation. Dont think the battle against CPI is over; it’s more a watch and see. I dont buy oil or any commodities. Market will just fluctuate till the short term coast is clear

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  • MHh
    ·2023-09-19

    Of course the Fed contributed to the high inflation. Dont think the battle against CPI is over; it’s more a watch and see. I dont buy oil or any commodities. Market will just fluctuate till the short term coast is clear

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  • icycrystal
    ·2023-09-19
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    most countries still very much dependent on oil as electric station location for charging are not that many as yet. it also takes around one hour to charge an EV car. therefore, oil prices will still surge if demand still there. rate hike or not as long as  there's demand, oil prices will surge especially when supply cannot meet demand. not just car, other items too that needs oil to function. nope don't think battle against CPI is over. well, most will blame Fed for the high inflation isn't it [Thinking] [Thinking] [Thinking]
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  • GoodLife99
    ·2023-09-19
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    [LOL] yes! everything getting expensive due to Fed keep raising rates & just feel helpless while hoping Fed has other solution instead of keep relying on rates hike!

    Tigers, come comment+ repost to win coinsssss!

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  • MHh
    ·2023-09-19
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  • Success88
    ·2023-09-19
    Temporary halt interest rate by Fed due to oil price high and many bank suffer. If it continues to go on many bank will collapse then will be more worst then inflation. Right decision made by Fed
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  • Tiger_comments
    ·2023-09-26

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  • Fenger1188
    ·2023-09-25
    在沙特和俄罗斯为首的OPEC+联合减产行动下,近三周来,布伦特原油已经上涨了11%,目前位于94美元附近,上周一度突破95美元大关,接近10个月以来高点。原油价格迅猛的涨势,能源股有望在今年四季度持续上涨。
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  • Zarkness
    ·2023-09-20
    Surging oil price will affect cpi and then inflation fighting goes on. It’s primarily the cause as almost all machines need them. Its not over till oil keeps tumbling down to 50-60 ish lvl. We shd blame the people for being too greedy and keep asking for more money.
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  • ysawm
    ·2023-09-20

    Many people are quick to point fingers at the Federal Reserve (the Fed) for high inflation, but is that entirely fair? Let's dive into these questions and explore my perspective.


    Surging oil prices   often  triggers concern about inflation, as energy costs play a significant role in determining consumer prices. However, I believe that the relationship between oil prices and interest rate decisions isn't as direct as it may seem. Central banks like the Fed consider a broad range of economic indicators and trends when determining interest rates. While oil price spikes can temporarily boost inflation, central banks generally focus on more stable, long-term factors to make rate hike decisions. This means that surging oil prices alone won't necessarily lead to an immediate change in rate hike estimates.

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  • Fenger1188
    ·2023-09-20
    自美联储启动加息以来,美国目前的利率达到2007年以来的最高水平,美联储过去12次会议中的第11次,美联储将基准隔夜利率设定在5.25%-5.50%的范围内,未来的政策走向将取决于经济数据。美联储在疫情期间是救世主,现在变恶魔,美联储的决定影响着美国股市,其它国家也受牵连😓,通胀要降到2%这应该是不可能的任务。希望这轮加息是最后一次,如果继续加息最可怜是人民。
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  • Fenger1188
    ·2023-09-20
    从历史数据来看,当美联储启动加息后,美国股票市场指数普遍出现了一定程度的下跌。当美联储暂停加息后,债券市场通常会立即出现强劲的缓解性反弹。美联储加息应该已近尾声,我预测美股会迎来大反弹❤️。
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  • Khikho
    ·2023-09-20
    市场对加息保持乐观的主要原因是8月份核心CPI下降。美联储关注核心CPI和服务业通胀,而不是住房。
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  • Kok
    ·2023-09-20
    Fed looks at core inflation that strips out energy n food prices. But having said that, energy prices affects all walks of life so energy prices will affect general inflation over time as costs of production increases.
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