Extreme Fear Strikes! Will "Bank Run" Repeats?

$Cboe Volatility Index(VIX)$ surged to 25 yesterday, marking the market’s return to extreme fear after months of calm — and the culprits were two regional banks that just blew up.

  • $Zions(ZION)$ plunged 13.14% after revealing a $50 million charge-off tied to a revolving credit facility underwritten by its subsidiary in San Diego.

  • $Western Alliance(WAL)$ also tumbled 10.83%, admitting it had lent to the same group of borrowers.

The panic quickly spread across the entire regional banking sector:

$Columbia Banking(COLB)$ dropped 7.92%, $Bank of Southern California NA(BCAL)$ fell 7.8%, and several other banks lost over 7%.

🏦 2023 Bank run repeats?

This week’s loan issues mark the latest challenge for U.S. regional banks, echoing the 2023 SVB crisis that sparked a sector-wide confidence shock. The current fears originated from the bankruptcies of two auto-related companies: First Brands and Tricolor Holdings.

  • Auto parts manufacturer First Brands declared bankruptcy last month and announced the resignation of its founder and CEO, Patrick James, this week. According to insiders cited by media, the Ohio-based company is now under criminal investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice.

  • $Jefferies Financial Group Inc.(JEF)$ , which has exposure to the bankrupt auto parts supplier First Brands, plunged 10.62% Thursday and is now down ~23% in October, heading for its worst month since March 2020.

  • JPMorgan and Fifth Third Bancorp disclosed hundreds of millions of dollars in losses tied to Tricolor Holdings.

The two bankruptcies prompted $JPMorgan Chase(JPM)$ CEO Jamie Dimon to issue a chilling warning during the bank’s earnings call this week:

“If you see one cockroach, there might be more. Everyone should stay alert.”

Contagion spreads to alternative asset managers — who’s oversold, and who could fall further?

The fear didn’t stop with banks. Concerns over loan quality spread rapidly to the private credit market, dragging down alternative asset managers and investment banks alike.

Alt managers under pressure: $Blue Owl Capital Inc.(OWL)$ fell 7%, $Ares Management LP(ARES)$ dropped 6.55%, $Blackstone Group LP(BX)$ lost 3.6%, $Apollo Global Management LLC(APO)$ slid 5.3%, and Carlyle Group (CG) declined over 4%.
Investors worry that the opaque nature of the private credit market hides greater risks beneath the surface.

Previously, bankruptcies tied to subprime auto lenders like Tricolor Holdings had already led to losses for JPMorgan, Fifth Third Bancorp, Jefferies, and UBS, with exposure estimated at hundreds of millions of dollars.

  1. 💬 Will this regional banking turmoil continue to spread?

  2. 💬 Do you agree with Jamie Dimon’s “cockroach” warning?

  3. 💬 As Bitcoin and big-name growth stocks keep sliding, which sectors or stocks could emerge as the next opportunity?

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  • highhand
    ·2025-10-17
    what is 50 million?? it's like a drop of water into the ocean. opportunities!!! but only the right stock without leverage.
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  • TimothyX
    ·2025-10-17
    本週的貸款問題標誌着美國地區銀行面臨的最新挑戰,與2023年相呼應SVB危機這引發了整個行業的信心衝擊。當前的恐懼源於兩家汽車相關公司破產:第一品牌和三色控股.

    汽車零部件製造商第一品牌上個月宣佈破產,並於本週宣佈其創始人兼首席執行官帕特里克·詹姆斯辭職。據媒體援引內部人士稱,這家總部位於俄亥俄州的公司目前處於刑事偵查由美國。司法部。

    $傑富瑞金融集團(JEF)$,該公司面臨破產汽車零部件供應商的風險第一品牌,暴跌10.62%週四,現在下跌10月份約23%,走向它的2020年3月以來最糟糕的一個月.

    摩根大通和第五第三銀行披露數億美元的損失三色控股.

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  • Cadi Poon
    ·2025-10-17
    $芝加哥期權交易所波動率指數(VIX)$昨天飆升至25,標誌着市場在經歷了數月的平靜後又回到了極度恐懼——而罪魁禍首是剛剛爆炸的兩家地區性銀行。
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  • 北极篂
    ·2025-10-17
    我觉得这次的情况虽然和2023年SVB事件有几分相似,但性质略有不同。那一年是流动性与利率风险集中爆发,而这次更像是信用风险链条的重现——从汽车零部件制造商破产,传导到地区银行与另类资产管理公司。关键问题在于:这些银行手上持有的私人贷款和次级债券,到底还有多少隐性坏账?尤其像摩根大通和第五第三银行曝出三色控股损失后,市场自然开始怀疑“是不是还有更多蟑螂”。杰米·戴蒙的这句警告,的确让市场神经紧绷。


    我个人认为,短期内市场的反应可能会有点过度,但中期风险仍然存在。过去几年私人信贷市场膨胀太快,尤其是在高利率环境下,很多中小企业借贷成本暴涨,现金流压力加大。如果更多企业开始违约,那确实可能重演一场“迷你版”银行挤兑,只不过这次的导火线是信用风险,而不是存款挤兑。


    至于机会,我反而会关注防御性板块和高股息蓝筹,比如公用事业、医疗保健或大型能源股。比特币和成长股的调整可能还没到底,但若市场恐慌延续,黄金、国债ETF甚至日元,都会重新获得避险买盘。短线要稳,现金流安全第一。
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  • Shyon
    ·2025-10-17
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    The VIX jumping back to 25 says it all — fear has returned. What’s worrying is that this time, it’s not just a few banks but a broader sign of credit stress across the regional banking sector. The Zions & Western Alliance news feels like déjà vu from the 2023 SVB crisis. Jamie Dimon’s “cockroach” comment fits perfectly — when one weak spot appears, more often follow.

    Still, the system today is stronger, with higher capital ratios and better liquidity buffers. But cracks in private credit and auto-related loans can’t be ignored. The exposure of Jefferies, JPMorgan, and Fifth Third shows how traditional finance & alternative credit are now deeply linked.

    I’m watching for overreactions, some solid regional banks could turn undervalued if panic persists. Meanwhile, defensive sectors like utilities, healthcare, or even gold miners may regain favor as investors seek safety. Staying cautious but alert — fear often breeds the best setups for the next rotation.
    @TigerStars @Tiger_comments

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  • TheStrategist
    ·2025-10-17
    They must had bought crypto the week before
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  • Aqa
    ·2025-10-17
    The present extreme credit fear did not stop with just banks. Concerns over loan quality spread rapidly to the private credit market, dragging down alternative asset managers and investment banks alike. Investors worry that the opaque nature of the private credit market hides greater risks beneath the surface.This regional banking turmoil will continue to spread and eventually, even the big banks like JPMorgan is affected. Warren Buffett was so correct to pull out of banking stocks. All attention to what he is buying now. Thanks @Tiger_comments @TigerStars @Tiger_SG @Tiger_Champs @MillionaireTiger @1PC
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  • WanEH
    ·2025-10-17
    我觉得这个恐慌肯定是会蔓延的,用户肯定会争先恐后的把钱提出来。除非政府出手支持担保,不然很难停止恐慌。 @Tiramisu2020
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  • WonderElephant
    ·2025-10-17
    Yes it will continue to spread, regional banks will lose more market share to big banks.
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  • Barcode
    ·2025-10-18
    $Cboe Volatility Index(VIX)$$S&P 500(.SPX)$$Columbia Banking(COLB)$
    🚨📈🔥 Volatility Spike Fades, Bulls Hold the Line 🔥📈🚨$VIX jolted awake this week, hitting its highest levels since April. U.S.–🇨🇳 flare-ups, $ZION and $WAL loan jitters, and a certified gold rush stirred the tape, yet major indexes held firm with solid weekly gains. The weekly candle suggests October’s volatility burst may be fading; historically, spikes topping in the 28.30–30.80 zone have reversed, with August 2024’s surge to 65.73 the lone outlier.
    VIX has slid from 29 to 21, $SPX is holding above 6650, and $QQQ remains above 600, reinforcing market resilience. With FOMC on October 28–29 and no fresh data this month, I’m sitting 95% in cash, keeping my powder dry to avoid unnecessary drawdowns. Today’s Nasty VIX Crush Friday™ perfectly sums up the tape: fear spikes are being sold hard.
    👉❓Are we seeing a seasonal fake-out setting the stage for a Santa melt-up, or the calm before the next fear leg?
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  • koolgal
    ·2025-10-18
    🌟🌟🌟VIX, the Fear Index spiked to 25 yesterday. Not because of war, inflation or what Jerome Powell said.   It was simply because 2 regional US banks - Zions and Western Alliance tripped over 2 auto linked borrowers : First Brands and Tricolor Holdings.  Small loans but Big Panic.

    Zions took a USD 50 million hit.  Western Alliance sued a borrower for fraud.  The market did not just flinched, it recoiled.  Why?  Because it wasn't just about numbers but memories of Silicon Valley Bank style blowups.

    Jamie Dimon warned that if you see one cockroach, there are probably more.

    Should we be worried ?  While  concern is warranted, let's not press the panic button.

    Zions and Western Alliance maybe isolated cases but they expose a deeper fragility of rising defaults and trust in the regional banks.

    VIX at 25 is a flare.  Not a fire but a warning.

    Cockroach theory isn't about doom.  It is about vigilance.

    @Tiger_comments @TigerStars @TigerClub @CaptainTiger

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  • ECLC
    ·2025-10-18
    Scared of not just any cockroach but especially those that fly around and really cannot sleep well. Stay calm, don't panic and be cautious.
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  • dralhc
    ·2025-10-18
    No it won’t.
    This is the same as then. There is a massive AI buy in but until the big companies miss their earnings it will remain over bought.
    Trump and his Willy waving caused this upset.
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  • koolgal
    ·2025-10-18
    🌟🌟🌟A good options strategy to hedge against AI bubble pop is to buy a protective put where you own the underlying asset such as $Invesco QQQ(QQQ)$.  This is to limit the downside risk.

    Think of it as a portfolio insurance : you pay a premium to guarantee a minimum sale price for QQQ even if the market crashes.

    Protective Put is like a parachute, letting you soar with conviction while guarding against a  sudden fall.

    @Tiger_comments @TigerStars @TigerClub @CaptainTiger

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  • L.Lim
    ·2025-10-18
    Isn't it a little concerning that usa did not learn their lessons from 2008 and still chose to relax regulations... absolutely out of control...
    Maybe it's another opportunity for everyone to buy in when the market crashes
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  • WeChats
    ·2025-10-18
    This “bank run” scare isn’t a crisis.

    It’s a confidence echo — a reminder that liquidity is thinner than it looks.

    Every quick rebound teaches traders the wrong lesson: that fear always fades.
    Until the one time it doesn’t.

    Don’t panic. Don’t chase.
    Stay nimble, stay awake — and trade what the tape gives you.

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  • MHh
    ·2025-10-19
    I do not think that this regional banking turmoil will continue to spread. The major banks should be able to weather this well given their massive moats. Also, this turmoil stems from their exposure to 2 businesses that went bust. It could be an isolated incident and other major businesses are still holding up well.
    I feel that the cockroach warning is a little overrated. Although this could be a warning sign of other businesses in the same situation that is yet to be announced, I feel that there is no need to jump ahead of clarity. I prefer to watch for more earnings reports of the other banks and to evaluate the situation.


    This could be mirror the SVB situation and I think the bitcoin and big name growth stocks will rise again. There is expected rate cuts, wars ceasing, trump’s threats of tariffs and then TACO—these are potential positives that would lift stock prices. I prefer to continue in my ETFs, AI and tech exposure as well as China exposure.
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  • 1PC
    ·2025-10-19
    VIX at 25 = fear is back 😱. Regional banks plunging, private credit shaking — Jamie Dimon’s “cockroach” warning [OMG] feels spot on. I do think this turmoil could spread 🏦. As for Bitcoin? Volatile, but signs of accumulation are emerging[Bless]. I’m watching for oversold plays, not panicking.[Bless]@JC888 @Barcode @Shyon @koolgal @Shernice軒嬣 2000 @Aqa @DiAngel
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  • BTS
    ·2025-10-19
    It is unlikely that a classic bank run will occur, but regional banking stress is spreading due to credit losses, especially in commercial real estate and subprime loans

    The “cockroach” warning is valid, as early losses indicate deeper, hidden risks, particularly in private credit and non-bank lending

    Opportunities are likely to be found in high-quality large banks, defensive sectors such as healthcare and consumer staples, strong cash-flow technology companies, as well as in gold and undervalued assets。。。
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  • Success88
    ·2025-10-19
    Bank would be still doing ok. Especially $Bank of America(BAC)$ Warren Buffett still invest on it
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